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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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V 320 MINUTES OF E V I D E N C E T A K E N BEFORE THE r.". G. Battersby. 13841. And you have deducted, as expense, the cost of production of the produce Exactlv. 19 June 1838 13842. And aiso the rent and the tithe?— Precisely. 1 3843. And you have argued that there was not a sufficient residue for a 10 I. beneficial interest ?— Precisely. 13844. Mr. Serjeant Jackson ] I would now call your attention to another casc% to a person of the name of Patrick Dehan; did he come forward to be registered ?— He did. " 13845. What quantity of land did it appear that man held?— Twenty acres. 13846. What rent did he pay ?—£. 20. 10 . v. 13847. What species of evidence did he give in order to satisfy the barrister that he ought to be put upon the register?— He said he would not take 10 7. for his interest in the farm; and, as an instance of it, he said in the preceding year he had 20 barrels of wheat, which were worth 16 s. 6 d. a barrel. In his case I did not, as I recollect, go into any inquiry as to the produce of his farm, but I produced a brother of his landlord, who was also a landed proprietor himself. 13848. What was the name of that gentleman ?— Mr. William Bigo Buchanan. 13849. He was a brother of the landlord ?— Yes, and a gentleman of landed property in the neighbourhood. 13850. Before you proceed to give us the evidence you extracted from Mr. Buchanan, who is a landed proprietor in the neighbourhood, give me leave to ask you had Dehan supported his case to show the barrister he was a person who had a 10 I. qualification ?— Certainly. 13851. And that evidence was of the nature you have stated?— It was. 13852. Did he produce any other witness to establish his own statement ?—• Not that I recollect. 13853. His evidences was of the nature you have stated ?— It was. 13854. That he would not take 10 I. for his interest?— Yes; and in order to show he was right in that, he said he had got 20 barrels of wheat the year before from the land, and that was worth 1G s. 6 d. a barrel. 13855. Mr. French.] And that he disposed of it?— I have no doubt he said he had disposed of it; but I have no recollection that he said so. 13856. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] He having supported his case upon his own testimony, and not having produced any other witness, you produced Mr. William Bigo Buchanan ?— I did. 13857. Did Mr. Bigo Buchanan know the land?— He did; that is, he swore he did. 13858. Did you examine him as to the value of the land, according to his judgment ?— I did. 13859. What value did he state upon his oath was a fair value for that land ? — He swore 1 1. 5 s. an acre was as much as any man could ask or receive for it. 13860. That was the evidence, then, with which you encountered Dehan's case ?— It was. 13861. You produced no further evidence ?— None. 13862. Upon that evidence the case was closed upon both sides ?— As I recol- lect, it was. 13863. Was that man registered?— He was. 13864. Then supposing the case to be as it appears from your evidence, that this man held 20 acres, and was subject to 20/. 10.9. rent, and that Mr. Buchanan's testimony was credible testimony, that the land was worth at the most I I. 5 s. an acre, it appeared this man had not a beneficial interest beyond 5 I. ?— Certainly, if Mr. Buchanon was to be believed. 13865. Not so much as 5/. ?— No; 4 I. 10s. 13866. What description of person was Mr. Buchanan ?— He was a gentle- man of landed property, residing in the county, as I understood, and I have known him and seen him since. He is a gentleman of property and consideration in the county. 13867. There was no attempt made to encounter his evidence, to your know- ledges— The assistant barrister said he would not act upon such evidence; not in this case; he said so afterwards ; that he would not act upon any evidence to contradict a person swearing he had a beneficial interest, unless the persons who bought the produce from him, or who knew the exact items of the produce, would
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