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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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V 286 M I N U T E S O F E V I D E N C E T A K E N B E F O R E T H E Thos. Courtenay, 12923. You did not see anything of the sort ?— No, I did not see anything of Esq. that sort done, but the tenants reported to me that such was the tact; and the bailiff of the estate informed me as to the shattered state of some of their 8 June 1838. llouses. 12024. Mr. Lefroy.'] And you acted upon the faith of that representation so as to make them allowance?— I did. I did not make that allowance upon the statement of the tenant himself; I sent a man to bring me word the condi- tion of it. 12925. Mr. O'Connell] Have you brought any of Lady Ross s leases?— I have brought one of the leases upon which the question arose at the sessions, upon which there was an appeal to the going judge of assize. 12026. Have you a copy of that?— I brought all the leases that contained that covenant to town, but I have only brought this one with me. 12927. the covenant similar in all the leases, or do they vary ?— It is not the same covenant as in Mr. Anthony Lefroy's leases. 12928. But are all the covenants in all these leases similar ?— They are. 12929. What were the covenants that were objected to, as rendering it incon- sistent with such a freehold as would entitle the parties to register ?— Creating a forfeiture in case the tenant did not reside upon the premises. 12930. Show me that covenant.— [ The Witness delivered in the same.'] 12931. Is the mill of Barry, mentioned in that lease, a mill in work?— I think it is, I am not quite sure; I am not the agent of that estate. 12932. Then this lease is in precisely the same form with the other leases of the registered tenants of Lady Ross ?— Yes, so far as the persons who were appealed for to the assizes. 12933. How many were they ?— I think six. 12934. Are there any other registered tenants of Lady Ross who registered under similar leases to this ?— I cannot state. 12935. I thought you promised to bring Lady Ross's leases?— No, only as regarded tenants they entered appeals for to the assizes; but I think I can answer for it that the leases are pretty much the same. 12936. All the leases?— Yes. There is no covenant in any lease of Lady Ross's the same as that in Mr. Anthony Lefroy's leases. [ The Witness was directed to make a copy of one of Lady Ross's leases, to be inserted in the Appendix.] 12937. Some of Lady Ross's tenants, I suppose, voted against her wishes at the election ?— Very few. 12938. Have any?— Perhaps two or three, but not more, I should say. 12939. Have you taken any proceedings against them upon any of the cove- nants ?— No. John Francis Fosbery, Esq., called in; and Examined. John F. Foslery, 12940. Chairman. j YOU are a barrister- at- law, I believe?— I am. 12941. Were you a revising barrister under the Irish Reform Act, in the autumn of 1832 ?— I was. 12942. In what county ?— In the county of Longford. 12943. Have you acted as a revising barrister since ?— Not as revising bar- rister ; I have acted as counsel and assessor at elections, but not as revising barrister. 12944. Mr. O'Connell] There have been no revising barristers since ?— No, except the assistant barristers. 12945. Chairman.] You are not an assistant barrister ?— No. 12946. And never have been ?— No. 12947. Mr. Lefroy. Had you any connexion with any of the political par- ties in the county of Longford before your appointment ?— Not the slightest. 12948. Did you, in the course of the discharge of your duty, make any dis- tinction whatever between the political parties as to the admission of votes ?— Certainly not. 12949. Is the statement correct that you registered those on the Conservative side who had not half the value of those you rejected on the Liberal side ?— I consider not. . 12950. Mr. O'Connell] It is quite certain you did not do any such thing intentionally ?— Certainly not. 12951. Mr.
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