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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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\ 254 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE ev. E. M'Gaver. 12039. How often ( loes lt aPPear John Sodan appears of Edgworth's Town, ' and John Sodan of Ballynahinch. 29 May 1818. 12040. The name of John Sodan appears twice upon the register r— It does. 12041. You are sure the name does not appear a third time ?— I am not certain ; if it was it must be after 1832. 12042. But you are not certain whether it does or does not appear a third time? — At present I cannot say. 12043. You said on a former day that John Sodan voted upon his father's cer- tificate ?— Yes. 12044. You likewise said that you were not present, but that you left your curate to watch?— Yes. 12045. It was whilst you were away, and your curate watching that he polled ? — Yes, that John Sodan, junior, polled. 12046. Did you examine the certificate?— I never looked at the certificate; I was aware that the certificate was given ; it was given in my presence ; I might have seen it in the hands of another, but I never had it in my possession. 12047. You never read the certificate out of which this man polled ?— I never got it into my possession; but I am aware that he was registered in opposition to my objection. 12048. But the certificate out of which he registered you never perused?— No; but 1 am aware that he was registered as John Sedan, junior, of Ballinahinch, and there was John Sodan, senior. 12049. Did you attend every registry at Longford ?— I attended the registry of 1832 in Ballymahon and in Longford pretty constantly; there was a day or two in Granard when I did not go. 12050. Can you undertake to say that John Sodan, junior, was never registered? — I positively state that John Sodan was not a freeholder when he voted. 12051. Will you undertake to say that John Sodan, junior, never registered?— Before I answer that question it is necessary for me to make a statement for the sake of elucidation. This John Sodan, junior, lived in Edgworth's Town before he came to Ballinahinch, where there was another John Sodan older than him; this said John Sodan, junior, when in Edgworth's Town he was junior, but when he went to Ballinahinch he became senior there, for he had a son named John. 12052. Mr. O'Connell.] And thus at one time he answered the description of John Sodan, jun., being at Edgworth's Town, where there was a John Sodan, sen.; but when he went to Ballinahinch there was 110 John Sodan older than he, but there was a John Sodan younger than he ; and then at Ballinahinch he was John Sodan, sen. ?— Yes; a notice had been served for him there at the registry in 1832 under the Reform Act; he did not appear himself; Mr. Courtenay wished to take it out; I was aware of the informality of the notice, and as they took advantage of the informalities on our side, we thought it right to take advantage of their in- formalities ; they would not listen to our objection, and they registered him, and I took care to watch that he should not be in the list of voters, and when I left the court I left a friend of mine watching, lest he should go up in my absence. The father went up, and only this question was put to him, Was he John, jun. ? He did not venture to swear it; his vote was rejected. His son was called up upon the spot, and he asked him, " Are you the John, jun., mentioned in the certificate?" He stopped and declined taking the oath, and he was going off the table, when his father met him, and said, " Go and vote." He did go back, and he voted. 12053. You were not present at that?— No; I left my curate and some others to watch, and they were present, and when I returned they told me what occurred,— the curate and others; he told me that John, jun., voted, and he told me what occurred, and he said he was horrified at the conduct of the father. 12054. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Will you undertake to say, that John Sodan, who polled upon the occasion referred to in this evidence, never registered ?— Not at the time ; I cannot say whether he registered since or not, because I understood he got land from Lady Ross since that. 12055. Will you undertake to say that he had never registered before he voted ? — I will ; I distinctly state that. _ 12056. You had attended every registry which had taken place prior to that?— This was the first registry under the Reform Act that I allude to. 1 2057. You attended, necessarily, throughout the whole of the registry, previous to his voting?— Yes, as far as Longford and Ballinahinch are concerned ; there was a time in Granard, a few days, when 1 did not go. 12058. Will
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