3 / SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 217 any parish, he would make inquiries as to the exertions of the clergyman of Rev. E. M. Gaver. that parish, to know whether he took proper steps to put an end to it. 12020. Did he ever inquire of you since that period whether you had reason 25 May 18381 to know or believe that there were these secret associations ?— Yes; he has fre- quently asked me whether I knew of any other cases; he lives very convenient to me, and we have had frequent opportunities of conversing on the subject. 12021. He lives convenient to you?— Yes, within three miles. 12022. And he knows your anxiety on the subject?— Yes. 12023. Then I rather wonder you did not go upon this recent occurrence to speak to him upon it?— I did speak to him on the subject, and I sent the men to him ; I might see him three or four times a week; and the reason I sent the men to him was, for the purpose of making them more determined in the promise they might make to the bishop than they would to me. Mart is? 290 die Maii, 1838. MEMBERS PRESENT. Mr. Curry. Mr. Serjeant Jackson. Mr. Lef'roy. Mr. Litton. Mr. O'Connell. Lord Granville Somerset. LORD GRANVILLE SOMERSET, IN THE CHAIR. The Reverend Edward M'Gaver, called in ; and further Examined. 12024. Mr- Serjeant Jackson.] YOU were examined the last clay respecting a Rev. E. M'Gaver. person of the name of John Sodan, jun., of Ballinahinch ; you said that he was — a freeman, you probably meant a freeholder ?— A freeholder. 29 May 1838. 12025. He was a freeholder of the county of Longford?— John Sodan, jun., of Ballinahinch, was not. 12026. Did you examine the register?— I am aware of the fact. 12027. Did you examine the register?— The first knowledge that I had of it was at the registry, when he applied to renew his certificate. 12028. Did you examine the registry?— I think I did, since I came to town. 12029. Are yo « sure?— Yes ; and I saw John Sodan, jun.; since 1833 I I do not know exactly the year, but I saw John Sodan, jun., on the register ; he re- registered since that. 12030. You examined the register since you came to London ?— Yes. 12031. In whose possession was it?— We have them at our lodgings; I think I have them myself; I know I paid for a copy to the clerk of the peace at one time. 12032. You can be under no doubt what it was you examined; was the docu- ment which you say you examined since you came to London, the register- book, or was it your list?— That is the subsequent register of 1832; that I examined since I came to London. 12033. Was it the registry- book, or any other document that you examined ?— It was the printed register- list coming from the clerk of the peace. 12034. l^ id you examine the whole of it?— I think I did. 12035. Are you not sure whether you examined the whole of it?— I do not know that I am sure, hut 1 looked at the index ; if I want to get information upon any particular person, I get a reference to the number and see, but I do not know that I read the whole book; I might, but I cannot be certain that I have since I came to town. 12036. Did you ever examine it with a view to see how often the name John Sodan appeared upon it?— I think I did. 12037. You are not sure?— I am certain I did. 12038. Since you came to London ?— Since, G G 2 12039. How