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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 211 11634. Do you mean to say he is content to take 305. an acre for land, for Mr- E- Roo ™ y. which he might obtain in the market 48 s. ?— I do. 11635. Mr. Lefroy.] You say this man told you he had made from 20 to 24 25 ^ l838' barrels of oats an acre ?— Yes. 11636. Do you believe that?— Yes. 11637. You believe that land produced from 20 to 24 barrels of oats to the acre ?— Yes ; I had an acre of land myself, and I got and sold 29 barrels of oats to one acre. 11638. You told us this man had 10 acres of land under oats?— No, I said he had 10 acres of land under tillage. 11639. How much of that was under oats?— I cannot say, for I have not it here. He had 10 acres of land under tillage, about 3 acres of pasture, and 1 | acres of meadow. 11640. Now, how much stock did he say he had on the 3 acres of pasture? Two cows and a mare and foal. 11641. And only that quantity of pasture for the year round for two cows and a mare and foal ?— Yes. 11642. And he stated to you that he made the quantity of butter you stated to us?— He did indeed. 11643. Mr. Curry.'] Have you John Chapman, of the barony of Rathcline, in that list ?— I have. 11644. Was he struck off by the Election Committee of 1837?— He was. 11645. When was his name put upon the registry?— The 4th April 1836. 11646. By whom?— Mr. French, I presume; he was the registering barrister at that time. 11647. did you attend those registries?— I did not. 11648. Just turn to that, and see who was the assistant barrister at that time? — Mr. Lindsey was the deputy from Mr. French at that sessions. 11649. Was Mr. Lindsey disposed to admit persons properly or improperly?— I think he took precisely the same view of it that Mr. French did. 11650. Mr. Curry.] He was admitted in April 1836?— Yes, and Mr. Lindsey appears to have been the acting assistant barrister at that time. 11651. Did you view and value his farm in February 1837?— I did. 11652. How many acres of land had he?— Twenty- one acres two roods 30 perches; rent, 30 I. o s. 7 d. 11653. What acreable value did you think his land was worth, or what acreable value did you estimate it at?— I did not estimate its acreable value; I took down the number of potatoes, and the number of con- acre, and so on. 11654. How many acres of potatoes had he the year preceding?— Two acres of potatoes, and two acres of con- acre potatoes, that is, two acres he had planted himself, and two acres he had set himself in the con- acre way, four acres and a half of tillage, eight acres of pasture, and one acre of meadow. 11655. Mr. Lefroy.] Is that the whole farm ?— No, it does not appear to be the whole ; there are ] 9! acres ; he must have had two more acres I did not put down. 11656. Mr. Curry.] Did you make an estimate of the gross produce of all the crops on his farm for the preceding year?— I did. 11657. Now just take the list in your hand; have you the names of Thomas Chapman, Charles Walker, Henry Green, Thomas Green, John Dowd, Bryan Dowd, Charles Kennedy, John Gallaghan, Dominick Keegan, Peter Martin, Patrick Newman, John Cody, and Thomas Farrell ?— Yes. 11658. Were those persons all struck off by the Election Committee of 1837? — They were. 11659. Did- you view and value the farms of those several persons in February 1837?— I did. " 11660. In your judgment, would a solvent tenant have given to each of those persons a rent of 10 a year, over and above the rent which the person himself paid for his interest in the farm ?— Y es. 11661. Mr. Lefroy.] In all those cases were not witnesses examined before the Committee?— Unless" I went over the book I could not say ; but in a later part of the proceedings before the Committee I understand, and I believe it is the fact, that the counsel on our side declined producing witnesses ; they found the decisions of the Committee such, they considered it useless to produce witnesses. 643. EE 2 11662. Some
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