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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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Mr. E Rooney. i H94- Mr. Curry.] Have you a person of the name of Cornelius Farrell in that list ?— I have. 25 May 3838. 11495. Was his name struck off the register by the Committee in 1837 ?— Yes. 11496. Can you state at what time he was put upon the registry ?— In April 1825. 11497. Did you view and value his farm in February 1837?— I did. 11498. How" many acres of land had he ?— Nineteen acres, one rood, thirty perches. 11499. What did you value his land as worth by the acre, one acre with another? — From 1 /. 6 s. to 1 I. 10s. I put it down. 11500. Could a solvent tenant have given Farrell 10/. for his interest in that farm over and above the rent that he himself paid?— He could. 11501. Was Mr. Gardener examined as a witness before the Election Com- mittee respecting the value of Farrell's land ?— He was. 11502. Is the statement that he gave of the number of acres in Farrell's farm, and the rent he paid, correct, according to the evidence he gave before the Com- mittee ?— It is not ; he states here he produced the lease containing 15 acres, 1 rood, 21 perches. 11503. Is the statement of the rent correct, as mentioned by Mr. Gardener?— f. 13. 18s. 4d. is stated to be the rent; I have it 13/. 8s. 4d. 11504. Did you take your statement of the number of acres, and the rent, from the lease itself?— Yes. 11505. Why were you not examined before that Election Committee?— I have already stated Mr. White told me in Dublin, that he conceived that two witnesses from each barony were quite sufficient, and I might as well not come over, and 1 did not. 11506. Who were the two witnesses from this barony?— Mr. Bracken and Mr. Wallace. 11507. Were Mr. Bracken and Mr. Wallace examined upon that case ?— Mr. Bracken was ; not Mr. Wallace, I believe. 11508. Can you state why Mr. Wallace was not examined ?— I cannot; I was not here. 11509. Was Mr. Bracken aware of the number of acres in these different hold- ings from the leases ?— I dare say he was ; but though we may have been upon the land together, we did not go together to take any note ; I generally looked at the lease, and took a note of the rent, and then went over the land, and I dare say he did the same. 11510. Then vou presume that Mr. Bracken saw the lease?— I dare say he did. 11511. If that were the case, how came he in that case not to make any obser- vations or give any evidence as to the incorrectness of Gardener's statement?— I cannot say ; I see he did in Cunningham's case. 11512. Do you believe that Mr. Bracken was as well informed in this case as you were?— I dare say he was. 11513. How came he, then, when he gave evidence upon the subject of this farm, not to give any evidence upon the quantity of land included in it?— It does not appear that he was asked by counsel about it; he not being in the room when Mr. Gardener was examined, might have been unaware of the number of acres that he had stated. 11514. Was he not asked by counsel upon the other points?— He was asked about the value, I believe. 11515. But still he was not asked as to the quantity?— I cannot say, except from the evidence before me; I was not here. 11516. Mr. Lefroy.] What sort of land is that?— It is very fair land indeed, in that neighbourhood. 11517. What you call very fair land ?— Yes, there is a great deal of bog in that neighbourhood, which makes it valuable: I have taken a note of one or two farms beside this, that, in consequence of the bog attached to all those farms of Mr. White's, it makes them very valuable. 11518. I am not asking about the bog, I am asking your opinion of that sort of land, and you say it is fair land ?— Yes. 11519. That is, about a medium quality?— Yes; indeed, perhaps, rather better than a medium quality. 11520. Then you would not say it was the worst land in the county?— Indeed I would not. 11521. Now, \ 254 MINUTES O F E V I D E N C E T A K E N B E F O R E T HE
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