\ 254 M I N U T E S O F E V I D E N C E T A K E N B E F O R E T HE Mr. E. Rooney. 11426. Is that a correct answer?— It might not be very correct; but I did not study or calculate the exact time I left it, when I gave that answer. « 5 May 1838. 11427. Is that answer as accurate as all your other evidence?— I consider all the evidence I give to be accurate. 11428. And you consider that to be accurate?— There may be some difierence in saying it is two years from February 1837 to May 1838, of course; I think there is some difference. 11429. You think that is so upon reflection ?— Yes. 11430. So that you have been answering questions to this Committee without any more reflection than that ?— No ; the generality of my answers were upon documents which are before me, and therefore I cannot go astray upon them. 11431. You may have been as inaccurate in collecting your information as you are in giving it, may you not?— I do not think I was. 11432. When you were asked the question, when did you quit the county of Longford, and you say about two years ago, and you now tell us you did not quit it until after February 1837?— I did not quit it until after I was over those lands, whatever time that was ; previous to the . petition, the February before the petition came on to be tried here, that was the time I quitted. 11433. What do you make the acreable value of this land at 61. 7s. id. for the whole?— I did not calculate with particularity; it is less than 10s. an acre. 11434. The rent, therefore, is less than 10s. an acre ?— Yes. 11435. And you value it at 11. $ s. an acre?— Yes. 11436. What is the date of the lease?— I cannot tell you that. 11437. You did not consider that a material fact?— At that time I might, but I did not take it down, and I cannot recollect; it is a long time since. 11438. Whose land is it?— I do not know the head landlord; it is not Mr. White's land, I believe. 11439. And you cannot give us the date of his lease?— No. 11440. Was it an old lease or a modern lease?— I dare say it must be an old lease. 11441. It must be?— I dare say it must be, from the lowness of the rent. 11442. But you did not think that a material fact to take a note of?— No ; I did not take a note of anything but the acreage and the rent. 11443. As much as enabled you to give him a 10/. freehold?— Yes; to ascer- tain that he had a 10/. freehold. 11444. And to qualify yourself to be a witness to that fact?— Yes. 11445. Mr. Curry.] Do you find the name of Lawrence Murtagh in the barony of Abbyshrule ?— Yes. 11446. Was he struck oft* by the Committee in 1837 ?— He was. 11447. Do you know in what year he was put upon the registry ?— 1837, it appears by this evidence. 11448. It appears by the notes of the evidence on that occasion that he was put upon the registry in 1835 ?— Yes. 11449. Did you view and value his farm in 1837?— I did. 11450. How many acres of land had he?— Twelve acres; yearly rent, 15/. 13s. 11 Id. 11451. What vent did you value his farm as worth by the acre?— I valued it at from 2/. 2s. to il. $ s. per acre ; his land was in a different barony from the others, and of a different quality. 11452. Was his land of a different quality than Cunningham and Clarke's land ?— Yes. 11453. It was situate in a different part of the county ?— Yes. 11454. Have you any note of the state of the houses upon that farm ?— Yes, I have a note ; " a good house and offices." 11455- Could a solvent tenant have given Lawrence Murtagh 10/. a year for his interest in his farm, over and above the rent he paid ?— He could. 11456. Now turn to the evidence before the Committee of 1837. ( The, Witness did so.) Is there any inaccuracy in the evidence of George Gardener given before that Committee as to the acreage of Murtagh's land and the rent he paid?— Yes ; the rent is stated here to be 17/. 18s. 11457. What is the actual rent ?—£. 15. 135. 11 £ 11458. Did vou see Murtagh's lease ?— Yes. „ 11459- Is the rent taken down in your memorandum- book, from the lease?— \ es. 11460. Chairman.]