188 M l N X J T E S O F E V I D E N C E T A K E N B E F O R E T HE Mr. James Ternan. after they had voted, in consequence of voting ; or that they were promised longer — leases before they voted, if they would vote in a particular way r— 1 cannot give 22 May 1838. an instance; I merely heard of it 11083. You stated, that, in consequence of the property 111 Longford belonging to Lord Longford, his agents were very active either in inducing parties to register whom they wished to register, or in preventing parties from registering that they did not wish to register ?— Yes ; and in many instances they opposed the Catholics from registering, knowing that they would vote against them. 11084. And in consequence of that the two curates, Messrs. Lyons and Davis, of the Roman- catholic persuasion, were active in their exhortations ?— Yes, to counteract the effects of that. 11085. Which do you think effected their object most, the curates or the landlord ?— I think the Catholic clergy, because they all voted afterwards against the interest that Lord Longford's agent wished to support. 11086. They first registered against the wishes of the landlord's agent, and then they afterwards voted against his wishes ?— Yes. 11087. But the Rev. Mr. Donohoe, the old clergyman, did not take any part? — From his age. 11088. He is a very respectable man ?— He is a very respectable man. 11089. Has he much influence among his flock ?— I think he has. 11090. Has he as much influence among his flock as these young clergymen ? — I rather think he has. There is one of those gentlemen dead, Mr. Lyons. 11091. Mr. O'Connell Mr. Davis was the gentleman that used to correspond, and whose letters appeared in the newspaper ?— Yes. 11092. Mr. Lefroy.~\ You say that in this instance these Roman- catholic curates succeeded against the landlord in getting those tenants to register and vote ?— Yes, in a great many instances they advised the people to vote, but the people themselves were as well inclined to vote. 11093. But wherever it came to a competition between the landlords and the Roman- catholic clergy, did not the Roman- catholic clergy carry off the tenants ? — Yes, the tenants were more inclined to go with them than with the landlord. 11094. They were exceedingly active agents, both at the registry and the election ?— They were. 11095. They went in large numbers together to collect the people ?— They collected freeholders in the respective parishes, and sent them in. 11096. And accompanied them very often?— In some instances. 11097. And they brought them to the poll?— Yes. 11098. They performed all the duties of election agents?— Yes, indeed, they did. 11099. After the election, in some instances, did not they denounce men from the altar that had not voted according to their wishes ?— I never heard them. 11100. And you do not believe they did it?— I believe that they pointed out those men who they conceived acted wrong, as an example to their flock. 11101. From the altar in the chapel?— Yes, I have heard that they did, but I have never heard them do so. 11102. Have not you heard that, in many instances, in consequence of that, men were cast out of the chapel, and their seats torn to pieces ?— Not in many instances ; I heard it in one instance after the last election, not before. 11103. You have given the names of two Roman- catholic clergymen who were active in this sort of way: will you state the names of some others; you said you could give the names of five or six ?— I believe I could ; there was the Rev. Mr. M'Cann, Mr. M'Gavin, Mr. Sheridan, of Granard ; Mr. Dawson, Mr. O'Byrne, of Newton Forbes, and a great many others. 11104. Will you name some of the others?— I should enumerate the entire of them in the county, with the exception of four or five, I think, and there are upwards of 30 in the county; they all did it. 11105. Mr. O'Connell.'] And will again ?— I dare say they will; I did not hear them say that they would not. 11106. Mr. Lefroy'~] You said that this young gentleman of the name of Robinson, whom you described as keeping the voters out of court, is dead ?— Yes, he is. 11107. The magistrates had nothing to do with respect to the administration ot the Registry Act ?— Nothing whatever. 11108. They