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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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S E L E C T C O M M I T T E E ON F I C T I T I O U S V O T E S , I R E L A N D . 175 / 11056. Who were the most active among the Roman- catholic priests who did Mr. James Ternan. this ?— A good many of them. 11057. Cannot you name one ?— I could name half a dozen. 22 May 1838. 11058. Mention some of them ?— There were two young gentlemen residing in Longford, curates; the Rev. Mr. Lyons and Mr. Davis were very active. 11059. Was Mr. Donohoe active?— He was not considered to be very active. 11060. He is a very respectable man ?— He is a very respectable old man. 11061. But Mr. Lyons and Mr. Davis were both very active ?— They were. 11062. To your knowledge, or from what you heard, in what way were they active ?— In advising persons to come forward that they considered had a rignt to register, and not to be deterred by their landlords or by any party. 11063. In what way did they exhort them to come forward ?— They advised them. 11064. Nothing more than advice ?— Nothing more that I am aware ; speak- ing to them after prayers from the altar. 11065. Was not that very likely to have a strong effect upon them ?— I think it was. 11066. Are you of the Roman- catholic persuasion?— I am. 11067. Would it not have a powerful effect upon a person hearing a strong exhortation from the altar upon points of this sort ?— Yes, I think hearing it from a clergyman would have a stronger effect than from a layman. 11068. Were you present when any exhortation of this sort was given by Mr. Lyons cr Mr. Davis, or any other Roman- catholic clergyman ?— I do not think I was present more than once at Longford. 11069. Either in Longford or elsewhere ?— In my parish there was no occa- sion for any excitement whatever, because it is the property of Mr. White. 11070. In your parish there is no necessity, because the landlord, and the Roman catholic clergy, and the tenants themselves, all take the same view of the question ?— The tenants were all left free by Mr. White. 11071. But in Longford it was not so ?— It was not so ; Lord Longford was the landlord there, and there was great exertion made both by his agents and himself to prevent the people voting. 11072. Did you ever see Lord Longford interfering ?— No ; I have seen Lord Longford there, and I have seen his agents interfering. 11073. You say that great exertions were made by Lord Longford and his agents with regard to inducing persons that had an interest not to register; did you ever see Lord Longford interfering either at the register or at the election ? — No. 11074. Then how came you to state that he was very busy both by his agents and himself to prevent their voting ?— So far as regards Lord Longford, I meant merely his agents; I am aware that farms were promised through his agents to persons on long leases, if they would register and vote upon the other side. 11075. Can you state any one instance in which those promises wrere held out ?— There was one instance that I can name at this moment: a person of the name of Keena, who took a plot in the town to build upon; he is a man of some capital, and at the election in 1832 he voted for the Liberal candidates, and they refused to fulfil their contract to him, and he was obliged to give up. 11076. Who refused ?— The agent of Lord Longford. 11077. Who do you mean by they ?— I mean Lord Longford's agents. 11078. How do you make Lord Longford's agent more than one?— He has two agents in Dublin, Messrs. Stuart and Kincaid. Keena had a great quan- tity of stones thrown upon the premises to build, and he was obliged to give it up ; he did not like to enter into any dispute with them. 11079. That is a case of non- completion of an agreement, but your statement was that somebody on the part of Lord Longford had promised to give them longer leases if they would vote in a particular manner; can you state a case in which that was done ?— I know that others who voted have got longer leases in consequence of voting. 11080. How did you happen to know that?— From hearing from the parties themselves, and their neighbours. 11081. They said that they had longer leases in consequence of voting in a particular way ?— Yes. 11082. Do you mean to state that those parties had longer leases given them
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