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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 155 V 10200. Then answer it?— I put down, as the produce of his potatoes, 25/. 165. 3 d. Mr. Bryan Clerk 10201. How many acres of potatoes did you put down?— One acre, 3 roods. b 10202. How much did you put down for that?—£. 25. 165. 3 d. 18 May 1838 10203. What was your next item ?— Five acres of oats. 10204. Flow much did you put down for that?—£. 35. 10205. How much did you put down for the meadow?— Three acres one rood; 13/. 10206. Was there any other item?— Six milch cows. 10207. I am now asking you the items which composed your former calculations of Brady's beneficial interest; are there any other items besides these you have mentioned ?— Yes, the six cows. 10208. They were included in the former calculation?— Yes. 10209. How much did you put down for them ?—£. 42. 10210. Was there any other item ?— I do not think there was. 10211. Now add them up, if you please?— It makes u^ l. 16 s. 3 d. 10212. Then how was it from that gross produce you gave us a beneficial interest of 55 I. 9 s. 4 d. in answer to my former question ; by what process did you arrive at that?— I put down for labour 20 I. 145. 11 d. ; I put down for rent 34 /. 135.; for labour attending the cattle 5 I.; that I made 60 I. 7 s. 11 d. 10213. Then how did you proceed?— I deducted that from the 115 165. 3d., leaving 55/. 85. 4 d. 10214. That gives 55 I. 8 s. 4 d. ?— Yes. 10215. that you give as the beneficial interest of Brady in his farm ?—- Yes ; upon the calculation I have made, I did not take into consideration the profit upon the two horses that were upon the farm. 10216. Did I not ask you, after you gave in that return, whether you had not deducted all items that ought to be allowed for?— You did. 10217. And you told me you had?— No. 10218. What answer did you give me; did you not say that you had deducted everything except the county cess and tithe ?— Yes, and the interest upon stock. 10219. Was that your former answer?— Yes. 10220. I speak of the question I put to you previous to my having compared your calculation of Brady's beneficial interest with that of Roarke?— Yes. ( The questions and answers alluded to were then read to the Witness.) 10221. Tell me now how you make out the variance between your former answers, as to Brady's beneficial interest, and the statement you now make of it ? — I did not take into account two horses that were upon the farm. 10222. Why did not you ?— I forgot it at the moment I made the calculation ; I did it in a hurry, at your instance ; I had no other view in it. 10223. Chairman.] Were you not desired to make all these calculations, for the purpose of being examined before an Election Committee?— Yes. 10224. To speak to these calculations?— Yes. 10225. Mr. Lefroy.~\ You have a note of the particulars of Brady's farm?— I have only the note 1 read ; but the calculations the Chairman spoke of were calculations accurately made according to the opinion that was entertained of it, and they are in the book which I have not with me. 10226. How comes it you did not think of those two horses until I compared your calculation of the beneficial interest upon Brady's farm with your calculation of the beneficial interest upon Roarke's farm ?— I did not think of it until you gave me time to calculate it. 10227. Did you not get sufficient time to make your first calculation?— I was not hurried in making it, but I did not do it. 10228. Do you conceive you did your duty to this Committee, by giving an answer to the first question I put to you as to Brady's beneficial interest, without taking time to be sure you were right?— I do not think I did my duty by not taking more time. 10229. Do you think it is possible to place any dependence upon a calculation so made?— I stated I was not sure, from want of time. 10230. Did you complain of want of time to make your calculation?— I did in the second instance, and vou said you would give me time enough. 10231. Were you not examined very minutely, and particularly as to the case of Brady at the last sitting?— Yes, I was. 10232. How came it then, you should now recollect for the first time these two horses, and not recollect them during the whole of your examination the last day, . 643. x 2 and er.
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