S E L E C T C O M M I T T E E O N F I C T I T I O U S V O T E S , I R E L A N D . i4g / V c ' 10041. And you are quite a stranger to that district ?— Quite a stranger. Mr. Bryan Clogher. 10042. And your opinion differs from theirs to that extent?— That is my — opinion. 16 May 1838. 10043. Mr. Curry.'] Did you examine the farm of Philip Brady?— Yes. 10044. Have you a note of your examination here ?— I have part of it. 10045. How many acres does his farm contain?— I have not the number of acres; I believe about 21 acres. He had an acre and three roods of potatoes, five acres of oats, two acres and a half of good meadow, and three acres of meadow in the orchard, and 140 fruit trees, in bearing, in the orchard. 10046. Did you value that man's farm ?— I did. 10047. What was the amount of the yearly value you put upon it r—£. 2. 8 s. an acre. 10048. Do you know what rent he paid to his landlord ?— I do not. 10049. It appears by the evidence in the Report that the yearly rent he paid was 34/. 145. for 21 acres, 1 rood ; do you think a solvent tenant could afford to pay him 10 I. a year over and above the 34 1. 135. for his interest in that farm?— I think he could afford to pay 2 /. 8 s. an acre for it. 10050. Chairman.] Do you mean to say that, in addition to the 335. an acre, a solvent tenant could afford to pay 155. an acre ?— Yes. 10051. You mean to say that he could afford to pay 15 s. an acre more than he does for it ?— Yes. 10052. Do you mean to say that he could support his family, and work the ground, and still afford to give that 15 s. an acre additional rent?— I think he could. 10053. That is to say, beyond the rent and taxes he is bound to pay, and beyond a fair allowance for his capital, and beyond the labour of himself and other persons that he would be obliged to employ in tillage, he can make 155. an acre ?— Yes. 10054. When ycu make that statement, how much do you allow for the labour upon that farm ?— There is an acre and three roods of potatoes ; that costs him, if he were to pay for it, about 4 I. 10 s. an acre for labour and seed. An acre of oats would cost about 2 I. 14s.; of course including seed, and bringing into the market. An acre of meadow can be cut and saved at from 10 s. to 12 s. 10055. Is that all you allow ?— That is all I allow for meadow. 10056. How many days would he be employed, with reference to his oats?— He would get an acre ploughed and sown for 155. 10057. How many days' labour do you allow him for the whole tillage, and taking care, and gathering, and so forth of his oats?— 1 have not calculated that. 10058. How many days do you allow for the work of that man, in the taking care and cultivation of his potatoes, and gathering them ?— It would require some time to calculate that. 10059. Did you ever calculate it?— I make no doubt that I have. 10060. When?— I am not sure; I calculated the whole expense that the acre would come TO. If I am asked how many days he will take planting an acre of potatoes, I can answer it. 10061. Can you, or can you not, say how many days' labour you have given to the man, when you state that the cultivation of his potatoes, and gathering them, and so forth, in the market amounts to 4I. 105.?— The way I calculated for the acre of potatoes was this: for the ploughing and harrowing 15s., for turning out the manure 105.: then for 20 cwt. of seed ll. 55.; for planting and finishing, 1/. 10062. Of those various items, which are those that belong to the manual labour of the man in question?— The planting and finishing them is what belongs to the man. 10063. To what extent does manual labour enter into the calculation of the ploughing?— The manual labour of putting in the potatoes, after the ground is prepared, would be about 1 /. 10064. The first sum is 155. for ploughing; now, out of that 155., how much do you allow to the man for his individual labour, when he manages the plough?— There are two men that attend the plough; two ploughs will plough an acre, that will be four men. 10065. How much do vou give to those four meu, in your calculation?— A shilling a clay, if thev are not to be supported. 10066. Then you take 4 s. for manual labour in the first item of 15s. for ploughing ? Yes ' 643 v 3 10067. Will