S E L E C T C O M M I T T E E O N F I C T I T I O U S V O T E S , I R E L A N D . 175 / lie had 15 acres of land, and that he paid 15/. a year for it?— I might have seen Mr. Bryan Clogher. that, but I did not recollect it at the moment. ' t 9979. What would it cost to build his house?-— He has a very good house 16 May 1838. also; it is 40 feet 3 inches long-, it is 18 feet 4 inches wide, and ' it " is 7 feet 2 inches high from the surface ; his offices are 34 feet 6 inches long, 16 feet 8 inches wide, aud 6 feet 7 inches high; I made no estimate of what it would come to. 9980. What do you think would be the value of that house by the year ?— It is very seldom that houses of that description let by the year, without land, in a country place. 9981. What do you think you could build such a house as that for, buying all the materials, and allowing of course for the labour of the farmer?— I should think about 40 I.; but I could make out an estimate by having the measurement, which I have here. 9982. How is it roofed?— Thatched. 9983. Is stone plentiful in that part of the country ?— Yes. 9984. That of course makes it rather cheaper, does not it?— It is cheaper lately, because they have not mud fit for building there. 9985. Do you know such a person as Thomas Bracken? — 1 have heard of him. 9986. Is not he a surveyor?— I believe not. 9987. Have you read his evidence in reference to this case?— I believe I looked over it; I did not mind it much. 9988. How much has he put down the house as being built for?— I cannot recollect. 9989. You cannot recollect whether it was 30 /., 40 /., 50or 60 I. ?— I cannot recollect. 9990. Which house is the best, John Farrell's or Daniel Cunningham's?— I be- lieve Farrell's was somewhat better. 9991. £. 10 better ?— I am sure it is; and, at the same time, materials are not so easily procured at Farrell's as at Cunningham's. 9992. In calculating this 40 I. for Cunningham's house, what do you allow for labour ?— Just the same as the other, 1 s. a day for the man attending the mason. 9993. That you think is the general rate of wages throughout the country ?— I think it is. 9994. For all descriptions of labour?— For all descriptions, without support. 9995. Mr. Litton.] Do you mean to say that a shilling a day is the general price of labour in the country parts of Ireland ?— For a man attending any tradesman it is, in that part of the country. 9996. For a mere labourer, carrying mortar and things of that kind, not acting as a tradesman, but merely a labourer, is not 8d. the general price?— Eight- pence with diet, and 10d. often with diet. 9997. Do you say that?— Yes, I have often paid 10d. myself to labourers, and fed them. 9998. Is not that at the time of harvest?— It is, and in spring. 9999. Generally, throughout the year, is not 8d. a day, without diet, the price of labour in Ireland ; not speaking of times of harvest and of mowing?— It is with labourers that work for gentlemen, because they get constant employment, and they do not work so hard as they would with a man of my description ; when they would get them for Sd. I would not get them for lesi> than 10d. 10000. Mr. Curry.] You take more out of them by day than the gentleman does ?— Yes. 1000:. Now go to the farm of Michael Reynolds ; did you view his farm at the latter end of 1837 ?— Yes. 10002. Have you any memorandum of it in your book?— I have. 10003. How many acres does he hold?— Thirteen acres, two roods, twenty- five perches. 10004. Do you know what rent lie pays ?— lie did not give me the rent. 10005. What yearly rent did you value that man's farm at?—£. 2. 125. an acre. 10006. For 13 acres and a half?— Yes. 10007. That is about 351, for the whole?— Yes. 10008. Was his land of good quality ?— Of very good quality. 10009. What kind of houses were there uPon it •— The house was very good ; I measured the house. 10010. What are the dimensions of the dwelling- house ?— The dwelling- house