V 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. Bryan Clogher. 0899. Did you take a map of that tenant's farm ?— I did. 9000. Will you produce it?—[ The Witness delivered in the same. J 16 May 1838. 9901. What is the name ?— John Farrell. 0902. Farrell, according to this, holds 15 acres of land ?— Yes. 9903. And you estimate 14 acres of that as worth 2 I. 12 s. 6 d., and one acre of it as worth 1 /. an acre ?— Yes. 9904. The gross amount of the value is 37 /. 8 5. a year?— Yes. 9905. Do you consider that a fair rent for Farrell's holding?— I do. 9906. Is the land of good quality ?— Very good quality. 9907. Are the farm- houses upon it good?— Yes, indeed. 9908. Are they correctly laid down on the map here ?— They are ; that is their situation. 9909. Do you know what rent Farrell pays?— I have not the amount of his rent; it will be found in the book of evidence. 9910. Is it John Farrell, of Turreen?— It is. 9911. The rent appears, by that evidence, to be 20/. 16 « ?. 4 d. ; so that according to the valuation, that you say is a reasonable rent for this farm, there would be a surplus of more than 10 L between the rent which the tenant pays and the amount of the rent as valued by you ?— Yes. 9912. At what period did you value this farm?— In October last. 9913. Could you see, at that time, in what state of cultivation it was ; how many acres of oats, or potatoes, or other crops ?— I did not take that, but it is very excellent soil; that soil, in particular, would grow from 12 to 14 barrels of wheat by the acre ; I do not think there is any better in that neighbourhood than that and another farm that is convenient to it. 9914. It is in the barony of Rathcline ?— It is. 9915. Those other maps are maps of the farms of the other persons whose names are mentioned in this list?— Yes. 9916. Chairman.] What sort of house was there upon this farm of Farrell's ?— A very good house, with three chimneys. 9917. How much do you think it would cost building?— I should think about 50/. would not be more than would build the house and offices. 9918. Do not you think he could build it for less than 501.1— 1 do not think he could ; I have made an estimate of houses of less dimensions than that in the neighbourhood, and found they came to that amount. 9919. If he said, when he was registered, that he built the house six years ago, when he got the lease, and that that house cost him 20/., do you think he or you would be the best judge of the value of the house ?— I think I could value the house as well as he. 9920. You think, if he swore that it cost him only 20/. to build the house, that he is not so good a judge of the value of the house as you are ?— He does not bring into his calculation the labour and the materials; those people find all the materials themselves, but they only reckon what they pay out of pocket. 9921. You suppose that when he said that the house cost him 20/. only, he quite omitted the materials ?— I am quite certain of it. 9922. You think that the value of the materials might have been 20/.?— I make no doubt it would come near 20/. 9923. How long would it take him to build this house, his own labour upon it ? — Generally they take from two to three or four months in building. 9924. What would you allow it to be worth, in making an estimate of the house ?— It is according as materials would be convenient or not. 9925. You were asked how long you think he would have been building this house, and you say three or four months. Now, supposing he was employed in building this house three or four months, what amount of expense would you allow, in addition to the value of the materials, for those three or four months, in that way?— Fie may have his son, or two, along with him, building. 9926. Supposing his son was not aiding him in any way, and he was left entirely to himself, how long do you suppose he would be building this house?— A mason would build a perch in one day ; that is about what they " build. 9927. Flow many days, or how many months, or how many years would this man have been building this house, by his own labour? — I should calculate the number of perches there is in the house, and go by that; but to estimate it at once I do not think I could do it. 9928. You have stated that you thought the building of that house would cost him