V 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. Bryan Clogher. 9773- You saw the land ?— Yes. : ' 9774. Now, could you be mistaken in looking at it by the eye, and could 15 May 1838. there be any considerable difference between your estimate in that way and an actual survey?— Not considerable; there might be a little, but not considerable. 9775. You are able to say that, from your long practice as a surveyor ?— Yes. 9776. Mr. Curry.'] Do those maps correctly represent the state of the land and the boundaries ?— Yes. 9777. And the farm- houses and buildings in each separate farm r— Yes. 9778. I observe the valuation of the arable land is put opposite to each tenant's holding ?— Yes. 9779. Is that the rent actually paid by the tenant, or is it the value you esti- mate the land as worth ?— The value I estimate it as worth. 9780. In estimating the land in the manner you have done there, did you make a fair allowance for the tenants to live upon ?— Yes. 9781. So that, in point of fact, those rents are the fair rents to charge between landlord and tenant, giving the tenant an interest in his farm ?— Yes. 9782. Are you able to state, of your own knowledge, whether any of the persons whose farms you so examined and mapped had been registered free- holders of the county of Longford ?— Yes, all that I have done ; I was directed to do no other. 9783. And they were pointed out to you as persons who were registered voters of the county ?— Yes. 9784. Do you know whether any of those persons were struck off by any of the Election Committees of the county of Longford, as not having a sufficient qualification in point of value ?— Yes, I have read so since I came to town; I had no knowledge of it previous to my coming to town. 9785. Did you know that from reading the report of it in the proceedings of the Longford Election Committee?— Yes. 9786. By which Committee were they struck off; in what year did that Com- mittee sit?— In 1837. 9787. Now, have you the names of any of those persons?— No, I do not think I have. 9788. Did you make a map of the holding of John Farrell?— Yes, I made an actual survey of the holding of one person, of the name of John Farrell. 9789. Have you that survey in town with you?— It was in town. 9790. Just see if it is amongst those you have there?— No, it is not here now; it is in town. 9791. Do you know a farm belonging to a person of the name of Michael Gillassy ?— Yes. 9792. Did you make an actual survey of that farm ?— No, not an actual survey. 9793. Have you that among the maps here ?— I believe it is. [ The Witness produced the same.] 9794. How many acres of land does Gillassy hold?— 8A. 3R. 20P. I made it 8 A. 3 it. by estimate, without knowing what it actually was. 9795- Then you rather made it under the actual quantity which the lease contained ?— Yes. 9796. What rent does he pay for that?— I did not ascertain that man's rent, or if I did I made no entry of it. 9797. Did you make any estimate of the value of the farm ?— Yes. 9798. What did you estimate the annual value of that farm at by the acre, in the first place ?— I valued four acres. 9799. What was the yearly amount of the value of the farm ?—£. 17. 125. 6d. 9800. What was it worth upon the average by the acre, at which you estimated the value of that farm ?— Nearly 2 /.; 1 /. 19s. 11 d. 9801. Averaging one acre with another, it is 1/. 19s. lid. by the acre? — Yes. J 9802. Mr. Lefroy.] Are the entries at the foot and side of this map of Roarke s from your own entries ?— Yes. 9803. I see you divide the farm into the different qualities of land which it consists of?— Yes. 9804. And