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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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V 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr 15 May 1838. Patrick Flood, judges on the ground of not complying with the Act of Parliament, been admitted subsequent to that decision of the judges ?—' That man is since dead. 0653. Have claimants been admitted upon the Longford registry subsequent to that adverse decision of the judges, claiming exactly upon the same grounds as the man in whose case that decision was given ?— He was a sickly man, and had his land in a very bad state; and I think he had a slender interest. 9654. But you do not mean to say that decisiou prevented the decision of the other cases ?— Certainly not. 9655. How came you to put forward so weak a case ?— It was the lawyers who did it; he was a sickly man, and had no one to mind his farm. 9656. He has died since ?— Yes. 9657. Mr. Lefroy.'] You told us that some persons were prevented from coming up to register; were any persons forced forward to register who were reluctant to do so ?— I do not know of any. 9658. There was not a single man at your side brought forward by influence or intimidation, to register against his will ?— Not in the part of the country I am connected with. 9659. Not a single one ?— Not a single one. 9660. And all came forward willingly and cheerfully ?—' They did, and sub- scribed to the expenses of the registry ; some gave 11, or 1 /. 5 5. 9661. Were not calculations made for the men who came up, in order to make out a 10/. beneficial interest; were they not furnished with calculations to prepare them for the examination of the barrister ?— No ; I believe not. 9662. You do not know of a single instance of that being done?— I do not. 9663. And you do not believe it was done in a single instance ?— I do not. 9664. You have heard no calculations made in court, and have heard of none given to the men ?— I made the calculations myself. 9665. But you did not communicate them to the voters?— Certainly not; I made them for the counsel. 9666. And 110 man made calculations for the voters?— Not to my knowledge. 9667. You are intimately acquainted with all the proceedings of your party, I suppose, as you were such an active agent ?— I was. 9668. Then it could not have been done unknown to you ?— Not in that part of the county I should think. 9669. And there was neither influence nor intimidation used in any one case of a man coming from the barony of Granard to induce him to register ?— No, as far as my knowledge goes. 9670. Mr. O'Connell.] Might there not be some instances?— Certainly, without my knowledge. 9671. You mean to say you do not know of any case of influence or intimi- dation used to induce men to come forward to register ?— I do not. 9672. Mr. Lefroy.] Have you ever known of an instance where a man did not swear up to the necessary qualification in court being blamed for not doing so ?— I have not. . 9673- Then during the whole time of the registry there was no political ex- citement or intimidation on your side ?— Political excitement there was; the people flocked to the registry in hundreds. 9674. What was the object of the excitement?— There was a crowd of people; the people were anxious to go forward to be registered ; I think they were more anxious than those who were assisting them. 9675. Who were the principal persons assisting in the registry ? Everybody who took an active part in the part of the county I lived in. 9676. They were all laymen who were active agents ?—' The laymen were the most active agents. 9677. The Roman- catholic clergymen were not active agents?— Yes, they were active, but I am not aware that they served any notices. 9G78. But they were active agents?— Yes. 9679. How did they show that activity ?— They assisted the people with money and advice. r 9680. Did they urge them to go forward and register ?— I think the lavmen were more forward than the clergy- y- 9681. That is your account of it?— Yes; I was more forward myself, and I think they were not doing more than their duty. 9682. Did
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