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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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V 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr Patrick Flood 9584. But they had qualifications at the time you served the notices ?— No. 9585. Were there any of them for whom you served notices who had not qua- • 3- 5 May 1838. lifications ?— Yes, and we did not produce them. . „ 9586. Did you produce a single man who had not a qualification r— We pro- duced a great many who were rejected upon the value, but I believe very few in the barony of Granard. i 9587. But you produced a great number who were rejected, and who had not qualifications ?— A great many came forward whom the barrister did not consider had a qualification, though I considered they had. 9588. But you did not serve a notice for any one whom you did not consider had a qualification ?— I did not consider it at all at that time. 9589. How came you to serve all these notices?— The freeholders requested I would. 9590. All the 1,000 freeholders ?— No ; but a great many brought the notices to me, and requested me to fill them up. 9591. What office did you fill ?— I did not fill any office, except that I took an active part, as a great many others did. 9592. Chairman.'] Was there any other individual who served notices?— Yes. 9593. How many ?— I cannot say. 9594. Was there any other individual who served 100 notices?— Yes; they had a club in the off- part of the county. 9595. Were you a member of that club ?— Yes, in 1837. 9596. I am talking of the period when the notices were served ?— That was in 1832. 9597. Was the club in existence at that time ?— No. 9598. Then of course you were not a member of it ?— No. 9599. Was there any other person who served as many notices as you did in 1832 ?— No ; for this barony of Granard was the largest part of the county. 9600. Did any other individual on your side serve as many notices in any other part of the county as were served by you ?— No. 9601. How many notices were served in that baron}'' by other persons besides yourself on the liberal side ?•— J cannot say; there might be 100 or 200 ; I recol- lect putting in 827 names in one list of the clerk of the peace, and I served a great many more. 9602. And somebody else put in 200 beside that?— Yes. 9603. Mr. O'Connell.] Were any of the 827 duplicates; that is, in different rights ?— Yes. - 9604. Chairman.] Of the 827, how many were registered ?— Some of them did not come forward to claim. 9605. How many of the 827 to which you particularly allude were put upon the register ?— I should think upwards of 200. 9606. Mr. O'Connell.] But the 827 were not 827 individuals; many were dupli- cates ?— Yes, and many did not come up ; it was 14 or 15 miles off, and many of the men waited for a week, and when the found they could not get their expenses, they returned. 9607. Chairman.] Of the 827, how many duplicates were there?— There might be 100. 9608. Then out of the 827 notices you think 727 were individuals?— Yes. 9609. How many were admitted upon the register?— I cannot say. 9610. But they were not all admitted ?— No; a great many were rejected by the barrister, and there were appeals to the judges ; but the judges ( Chief Baron Joy and Chief Justice Doherty) would not try them. There were two cases tried; in one case a man who belonged to a class was admitted, and in the other, he was rejected. 9611. Mr. O'Connell.] Why would not the judges try them?— They could not stay to try them; they were obliged to go to the assizes. 9612. Then the only reason the others were not tried was, that the judges could not wait?— Yes. J fe 9613. Chairman.] What was the verdict in the cases that were tried?— I cannot say; they were of a different class. 9614. How many belonged to the class that was admitted ?— Their case* were not tried. 9615. You stated that two individuals tried their cases before the judge ; that one
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