SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 111 c 9302. Were they built of stone ?— The house was a great part of it of stone; Mr Patrick Flood there was some mud and stone in the outhouses. 9303. Thatched, I suppose ?— Yes. i5 May 1838. 9304. Mr. Lefroy. You said Reilly was a rich man ?— Yes; he was a man in comfortable circumstances. 9305. And, that being a rich man, he had a beneficial interest of 401. a year in the farm he had ?— Yes; I think so. 930( 3. What interest do you think a poor man would have had ?— Not so much, I think. 9307. What interest would he have ?— He would have to let it in conacre; and set the grass arid the oat- land, perhaps. 9308. What interest would any man ever so poor have in that farm ?— He would make 30/. a year if let out in conacre. 9309. Then it would be worth to any man 30/. a year?— Yes, any farming- man. 9310. You mean 30/. a year over and above his rent, and the outgoings of his farm ?— Yes ; his beneficial interest. 9311. I wish to know, do you mean over and above his rent and the out- goings of his farm ?— Yes. 9312. That any man, however poor, would have a beneficial interest of 30/. a year in it ?— Yes. 9313. And it would be worth to him 30/. a year?— Yes. 9314. Chairman.] Were you present when lie was put upon the register ?— I think I was. 9315. Was he objected to ?— He was. 93 16. Was any evidence given ?— I think not- 9317. Mr. Lefroy.] Who registered him?— I think it was Mr. Fosbery. 9318. Chairman.] Was there any evidence given in favour of the value?— I think not; the man always comes up and produces his lease, and states to the barrister upon his oath what is the value of the land. 9319. Then he was registered upon his own assurance?— Indeed, I think so. 9320. There was no evidence brought forward in support of the value, nor any evidence in opposition to the value ?— No; the counsel and agents on the other side opposed him, as they did in every case, but I do not think this man had any occasion to produce his leases. 9321. Do you mean that the opposite party opposed in every case?— Yes. 9322. Was there any case of a 10/. freeholder who was not opposed?— Yes; we did not oppose more than one case out of 20; and I think on the other side they opposed in every case. 93^ 3. They opposed in every case, without an exception ?— Yes; I do not think there was a single case in any parish that they did not object to. 9324. Mr. French.] I suppose you mean by objecting, that the lawyers asked questions of the witnesses ?— Yes. 9325. But they did not bring up witnesses to oppose in every case ?— No; in every case they did not bring up witnesses. 9326. Then, by objecting, you mean that they brought up witnesses in some cases, and in others they asked questions only ?— Yes. 9327. Chairman.] Do you mean that the party to which you refer objected to votes of that character in every case?— Yes. 9328. That they tried to prevent their being put upon the register in every case ?— Yes. 9329. Mr. Curry.] Now mention any other case of a voter who was put upon the register of the county of Longford, and who was rejected in 1833 or 1837 by the Committee ?— Christopher Cahill, of Aughagragh, was struck off. 9330. When was he registered ?— In 1832. 9331. And when was he struck off?— By the Committee of 1833 ; the man has been registered since. 9332. When did you view his farm ?— I viewed his farm 111 1835, 1837, and 1838. I went with other valuators upon the land to view it. 9333. Turn to your memorandum of the valuation you made?— I did not take it down ; I know the man's farm so well. 9334. How many acres had he ?— Thirteen and a half acres. 9335. What rent did he pay He paid 12 s. an acre. 033( 3. That is 8 /. 4 s. a year?— Yes. R 9337- VVas