SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 111 c 9242. You have charged the labour for cultivating the crop, just crediting the Mr. Patrick Flood farm with the value of it as conacre ?— Yes. 9243. Mr. Lefroy.] Is the principle upon which you have made the calcula- 11 May 1838. tion that of charging the farm for the labour of tilling and reaping and saving the oats, although you treat it as if it were let in conacre?— No ; if I take it only as conacre, I will not charge labour; but if I do not, I then charge labour. 9244. In the cases in which you have charged the oats as conacre oats, have you charged the expense of tilling and reaping and saving the oats?— I have. 9245. Although you charge it as conacre oats ?— In that case I did. 9246. Then is your calculation made upon a just principle?— I think so. 9247. Then although you charge the oats as conacre oats, you debit the farm with the expense of tilling and saving the oats, as if the man tilled it and reaped it himself?— As I was aware that the man did keep the oats, I did charge it with labour, and I thought I had a right to do so; if the man had really set it in con- acre, I would not have charged it with labour. 9248. Do you mean to say that an acre of oats is worth as much to a man by cultivating it and reaping it himself, as if he had set it in the way of conacre? — I say it would be worth more; what would the man that took it give 7/. for, if it was not worth more ? 9249. Mr. Curry.'] Have you the name of any other person who was struck olfin 1837, whose farm you valued?— There is John Kiernan, of Trumroe, in page 382 of the Election Committee Report. 9250. When was he registered?— In October 1832. 9251. When was he struck off?— In 1837. 9252. Did you view and value his farm ?— I did. 9253. In what year?— In April 1837. 9254. How many acres of land had he ?— Fifteen acres, two roods, and one perch, Irish measure. 9255. What was his rent?— I have taken his rent at 32s. tid.; about 25/. 9256. Were there any farm- houses upon that farm?— Yes, a very good house and offices. 9257. How many acres of oat ground had he ?— Four acres of oats that year. 9258. How many of potatoes?— Three acres of potatoes. 9259. Had he any meadow ground ?— He had three acres of very prime meadow. 9260. Was the rest occupied in grazing?— It was. 9261. What stock had he?— He had five cows, six yearling heifers, three sheep, four pigs. 9262. In your judgment would a solvent tenant have given that man 10/. a year for his interest over and above the rent he paid ?— He would, and a good deal more. 9263. What was the beneficial interest of that man in his farm worth by the year?— I have not calculated it; I suppose close on 50/. at least. 9264. Forty pounds you may safely say ?— It is upwards of that; it is a very valuable holding. 9265. Was his lease in the same year?— It was. 9266. Mr. Lefroy.] Did you take his rent from the lease?— Yes; I recollect having this man's lease. 9267. That was a lease also made by Major Thompson ?— Yes. 9268. Is the man still in possession of the farm ?— He is. 9269. And pays his rent?— He does. 9270. You estimate his beneficial interest upon the same principle that you have done the others ?— I would, if I was to make it out. 9271. Is the house in good condition ?— It is a very good stone- wall house. 9272. A stone- wall all the way up?— Yes, and there is a barn, byre and stable. 9273. Are they thatched or slated?— Thatched. 9274. Was any witness examined as to these premises before the Election Committee ?— No one to support the vote; I was the only one to be produced. 9275. Can you state why, when they had got so many other persons to value besides you, they did not bring over any other witness but you P—' They did not get any other to value in 1837, but in the last petition they had several, and they could bring up three, or four, or five, but at that period they did not. 643. Q 4 92? 6. Mr. Curry.]