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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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n o MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. Patrick Flood. 8998. Will you name any other man besides Sheridan whose forced in ?— Murphy and John Reilly of Trumra, John Kiern r< 1 ati< ShfinVtan nf Tnimra : I cannot recollect al X1 May 1838. 8998. Will you name any other man besides Sheridan whose arrears were forced in ?— Murphy and John Reilly of Trumra, John Kiernan and John Glynn of Granard, Mr. Sheridan of Trumra; I cannot recollect a 1 the names. 8999. When were they obliged to pay the arrears ? I think the arrears were called up about two'years back ; perhaps before. 9000. How much did they owe ?— I could not exactly say the sum, but they told me they were all pressed for rent. 9001. They owed large arrears ?—' They did in 1833, but I believe they do not owe it now. 9002. Were ejectments brought against them r— I do not know that the parties allowed themselves to he ejected ; I should think not. 000'!?. Were they distrained?— I do not think they were distrained upon that 900 3 estate. 9004. Then the amount of the persecution with respect to those men was, that in the course of two or three years after 1833 they were obliged to pay up the heavy arrears they owed ?— No ; immediately after 1833. 9005. Is it your evidence that they were obliged to pay up the arrears at once, immediately after 1833?— Some of them could not pay all at once, and therefore they were put to costs, and they got time by it. 9006. Will you name any one of those men who was put to costs?— I name the case of Sheridan. 9007. Can you name any one of those you have mentioned last?— Those men were able to pay up the rent. 9008. Mr. O' Connell Can you name any one but Sheridan ?— No, I cannot. 9009. Mr. Lefroy.] Then Sheridan is the only one that you can name, that was put to costs ?— Those that did not pay, were turned out for non payment of rent; but I do not think they had any lease. 9010. You think that the men who were turned out had no leases?— Yes ; one man had a lease and he was a freeholder. 9011. But the others that were turned out had 110 leases?— I think a great number had not. 9012. And that was persecution for voting?— No, I do not say that; there was the case of James Kenny, he was a freeholder, and he was turned out. 9013. For what ?— For non- payment of rent. 9014. When did that take place?— I think about two years ago. 9015. How much rent did he owe ?— 1 should think he owed three years' rent. 9016. Mr. O'Connell.] How did Tuite vote at the last election?— For Mr. Lefroy and Mr. Fox ; he told me so ; I expected to meet him here ; he had letters to come over here from Mr. Lefroy and Mr. Courtenay ; I should be very glad that he was here; he valued this parish ; he said he wouid not swear for any set of men. 9017. Mr. Lefroy.] Then there was no arrear due at all upon this estate at the time of the last election, in consequence of his getting in all the rents?— There might be a year; I should think very little more than a year. I beg to remark there is a shilling in the pound charged for fees upon this estate ; that is not the practice generally in the county; it is the receiver's own fees for receiving the money. 9018. Mr. O'Connell.'] Does not he charge that, to the landlord ?— He charges it to every one. 9019. Chairman.] You were understood to state that there is the same exertion made to recover the arrears of rent with regard to the tenants that were not electors as with regard to electors?— I believe that all the tenants have been obliged to pay up, but they were not persecuted with law proceedings so much as the freeholders; but 1 understood that, generally, all the tenants were obliged to pay up. 9020. Mr. Curry.'] Will you refer to your list, and state the name of any other tenant whose farm you valued, and who was struck off by the Election Committee ?— Brien Sheridan, 372. 9021. When was he registered ?— In 1832, I think. 9022. Was he struck off" upon any election petition from Longford?— Yes, he was struck off' in 1837. 9023. Did you value his farm at any time between 1832 and 1837-— Yes, 1 know the man's farm; 1 valued it in 1837, and I had been acquainted with it tor some years before. 9024. How
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