V \ 254 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE M P, trick Flood 8757. Then, if the person sent to value was sent by Mr. Welsh, that would ^ IT. Patrick Flood. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^ who Uved close to him ? Yes ; and there ,1 May .838. was another reason, that the gentleman was a Protestant, and his test. mony would be better before the Committee than a Catholic s. 8758 Mr. Serjeant Jackson.'] Who gave you that reason ?— Ihe party in the county said that it was better to bring a stranger in that had nothing to sav to the county, particularly to bring in a Protestant; that his testimony would have more weight. 8759. What party said that?— The Liberal party. 8760. Was that your opinion ?— Yes, it was my opinion, and it is tneir opinion. 8761. Was that your opinion ?— Decidedly. 8762. Mr. O'Connell. Why should it have more weight with the Com- mittee than the evidence of a Roman- catholic ?— It is said every other day that a Roman- catholic has no regard for an oath; I see it in the papers every other day. 8763. Is that your own opinion ?— My opinion is, that if they had 110 regard for an oath they need not have been kept out of Parliament so long as they have. 8764. Are you a Roman- catholic yourself?— I am. 8765. Mr. Curry.] What is the next case ?— James Glancy; it is on the same map. 8766. How many acres does he hold?— He holds 20 A. 3 it. 35 p. 8767. What rent does he pay?— He pays 44/. 4 s. 9 d. a year rent for the two holdings; there are two separate holdings. 8768. Mr. O'Connell.] Is it the aggregate amount of the two holdings that you have given ?— Yes ; there are A. in one, and there are 14 A. 1 R. 35 p. in the other. 8769. Mr. Curry.] What rent does he pay for the 14 A. 1 it. 35 p. ?— He pays 11. 19 s. 3 d. an acre. 8770. That is about 28/. ?— About that. 8771. Is his farm in a good state of cultivation?— The best; there is no better in the neighbourhood. 8772. Is his land of a good quality ?— Of very fine quality. 8773- When did you view it?— In April 1833. 8774. What stock had he on it at that time?— 1 have not put down the stock. 8775. In what state was it as to cultivation ; how many acres of oats, and and how many acres of potatoes?— He had two acres of oats, an acre and a half of meadow, two acres and a half of potatoes, and he had about thirteen acres in grazing; but it appears here, by this Report of the Election Com- mittee, that they have sworn that the man held but fourteen acres. 8776. When was that man put upon the registry?— In 1832. 8777. Was his name struck off by any Election Committee for Longford?— Yes; it appears by this Report, in 1837. 8778. In your judgment, would a solvent tenant have given that man 10/. a year rent for his farm, over and above the rent lie paid himself ?— A good deal more. 8779. Understanding what is meant by " beneficial interest," in the sense in which you explained it the last day of your examination, what was that man's yearly beneficial interest in that farm?— It could not be less than 40/. to 50 /. 8780. You said you have no particulars of the stock ?— No, I have not put down the stock ; I was examined in this house as to the value, before the bar- rister, Mr. Fosberry, when he was registered in 1 832. 8781. Mr. Lefroy.] You say that his beneficial interest would be from 40/. to 50/ a year ; would it not be more than 50/. a year?— It might; he has a great deal of land under grass at this period, and of course, grass- land will not brino- so great a profit as under tillage ; but I have no doubt that this year, with the quantity of potatoes he has sown, it would be a great deal more : but I now speak of the year 1833. 8782. Does he occupy the whole of this ?— The whole of the 14 acres he does; he has about an acre and a rood of land, that brings him in a profit of W / « IU 8783. Over