SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 7 9 ^ 1593- Mr. Beamish.] Did you go about with a view to ascertain the value as Mr 7 • r if they were valued by the grand jury No ' Mr. John Young. _ 1594. Would you be satisfied to take the grand jury value for your houses? igT^ TsaS. 11595. Then the value you put upon those houses is the outside value that anv landlord could get for them ?— Yes. y 1596. Founded upon your own judgment?— Yes. Martis, 20° die Februarii, 1838. MEMBERS PRESENT. Mr. Beamish. Sir Robert Ferguson. Mr. F. French. Mr. Serjeant Jackson. Mr. Lefroy. Mr. Litton. Lord Granville Somerset. LORD GRANVILLE SOMERSET, IN THE CHAIR. Mr. John Young, called in ; and further Examined. 1597. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] DID you visit a person of the name of Thomas Cummings, of Archdeacon's- lane ?— I did. 1598. Did you examine his house carefully?— I did. 1599. What is the utmost value of that house ?— The utmost value of that house I consider to be 41, per annum. 1600. ( To Mr. Colburn.) Do you find a person of the name of Thomas Cum- mings upon the register ?— I find Thomas Cummings, shoemaker, Archdeacon's lane ; house at Archdeacon's- lane; 10?. householder; registered at Mallow the 1st of April 1836. 1601. To Mr. Young.] Could that house, by any possibility, have been of the value of 101, a year in 1836 ?— It was never worth 10/. a year when it was first built. 1602. In what condition was that house when you visited it?— In very bad repair; a very poor small house. 1603. ( To Mr. Lane.) Do you find any such person as that in the valuations for the purposes of local taxation ?— No. 1604. ( To Mr. Young.) Did you visit the house of a person of the name of Daniel Sheehan, of Pope's- quay, since last Christmas ?— I did. 1605. Did you estimate the value of it according to the best of your judg- ment ?— He told me that he paid bl. a year for it, and I think that is the full value of it; it is in bad repair, and is a small house. 1606. ( To Mr. Colburn.) Do you find Daniel Sheehan, of Pope's- quay, upon the register ?— I find Daniel Sheehan, shoemaker, Pope's- quay, city of Cork; house at Pope's- quay; householder, 10/.; registered 23d of October 1832. Voted 1832 1607. ( To Mr. Young.) Could that house, according to the best of your judg- ment, have been worth 10?., or any such sum, in 1832 ?— It never could. 1608. ( To Mr. Lane.) Do you find him in the valuation ?— Yes, Thomas Sheehan, dwelling- house, bl. 1609. Has he been paying his rates upon that valuation r— In the summer ot 1832 lie was rated; in spring and summer 1833 he was returned poor; in spring and summer 1834 he was returned poor; in spring 1835 he was returned poor; in summer 1835 he was returned poor; in spring and summer 1836 he was rated ; and in spring 1837 he was rated. 1610. Mr. Beamish, to Mr. Young.] You say you conceived the value of that man's house to be but bl. ; do not you think it was an extraordinary valuation for those that were appointed to put on it, if that was the outside rent that could be - ot for it ?— I believe if Mr. Lane will refer to his book, he will find that that was valued in 1828, that is 10 years ago, and that house might be very well worth 61., or perhaps 11. then, and not be worth more than bl. now, at the end of 10 years. 1611. Sir 0.46. L 4 Mr . John Young.. O 20 February 1838.