f SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. / * / < 3 1469. Do you think if they knew what you were coming about they would be Mr John r likely to tell you the facts with regard to their premises, andto give you the mean ^ ^ ^ laiead° meg lnt0 al1 their affairsP- I think they would I very apt to 19 February ,838. 1470. Then in fact you might go there upon a wild- goose chase ?— I mi< rht . ,147i- Mr. Serjeant Jackson. Did you trust to your own eyes and to your own judgment, or did you take the word of those people ?— My own judgment. 1472. Did you in each and every case exercise your own judgment upon the examination had upon the spot ?— I did; I am particularly acquainted with the value of places in Blarney- lane, for I have several houses there of my own. 1473- Mr. Beamish.] But inasmuch as you do not know what extent'of pre- mises those parties registered out of, you cannot pretend to say what value they had for the registry ?— I could not. 1474. Chairman.] Were the parties most likely to put their premises at a less value than the^ real one, if they thought you came to ascertain whether they had a right to vote ?— They would be more likely to increase the value. 1475. Mr. Beamish.] Do not you think it very possible that they might mislead you and deteriorate the value, in order to lead you to give evidence contrary to the facts ?— I do not think so. 1476. You think they would be disposed, knowing your object in coming there, rather to raise the value of the premises than to mislead you by deteriorating them ?— I think so. 1477. Chairman, to Mr. Lane.] Will you state what is the value, appearing in the books, of Jeremiah Murphy's house and concerns in Blarney- lane?—£. 5. 1478. Mr. Serjeant Jackson to Mr. Colburn.] Do you find upon the registry Jeremiah Murphy, of Blarney- lane ?— Jeremiah Murphy, shoemaker, Blarney- lane; house and land at Blarney- lane; 10 I. householder; registered the 22d of Septem- ber 1836. 1479. ( To Mr. Young.) What class of persons are those persons of whose houses you have been speaking; what kind of person was this James Miller?— I should call him a decent man ; he is a superior man to Jeremiah Murphy, the shoemaker. 1480. What description of person is Cornelius Noonan?— I did not see him. 1481. Do you know what kind of person Michael Murphy is?— No, I never saw him. 1482. Do you know Jeremiah Murphy, of Blarney- lane?— No. 1483. Chairman.] Should you say that Jeremiah Murphy's house was more valuable formerly than it is at this moment?— Of course it was. 1484. Do you think it could ever have been of the value of 10 /. ?— Never; there is only " one room in it; it never could have been valued for the city rates, it is so small. 1485. Therefore your judgment is, that the Jeremiah Murphy appearing upon the rate book, is not the same person respecting whom you are giving evidence ?— It could not be the same person whose house I visited. 1486. Chairman.] Is the man whose house you have been speaking of, a shoe- M& KTR ? HG IS. 1487 ( To Mr. Colburn.) Do you find upon the register a second person of the name of Jeremiah Murphy, of Blarney- lane?— I do; he is described as shop- keeper in Blarney- lane, in the city of Cork, and the description ot his property is, " shop at Blarney- lane," and the other is, " house and concerns at Blarney- lane." Voted in 1837. . . ( T , 1488. Mr. Serjeant Jackson^ Did you visit a person of the name ot John Oakshott, in Phillips's- lane ?— I did. _ _ 1489. Did you see his shop?— I was in it. 1400. You examined it ?— I did. 1401 What is the highest value you would put upon that shop ?--£. 2 a year. 1492. What description of shop is it ?— It is a workshop ; he is a carpenter. 1493. ( To Mr. Lane.) Does such a person as John Oakshott, in Phillips s- lane, appear to have been valued ?— No. 1404. Mr. Serjeant Jackson, to Mr. Colbum.] Do you find John Oakshot upon the register ?— I do ; John Oakshott, carpenter, Ph. lhps's- lane, city of Cork shop at PhillipsVlane ; 1 c I. householder; registered the 2d of November 1832. Voted 1832 and in 1835. 1495- To 0.46. L 2