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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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24 Mr. Jiinics Lane. 7 February 1838. MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE r 7 1 Vnu not onlv applot as treasurer, but you like- 462. Mr. SerjeantJ^ JSLd' ? issue a warrant upon » hat wise issue a warrant .'— Ies, naMu0 11 ^ Tnd that warrant goes to the high constable f- To the collector appointed CVm/ 1 Did you make out the particular sum that each person is to pay?- Inthed[ yIdo ; in the liberties I only give an applotment upon the plough- Ian465. And that is afterwards assessed by competent persons upon the holders of th^^' MiTse^ eant Jackson.] Have you both townlands and ploughlands ?- ^ T^ lfdS not' in point of fact, denominations called townlands in Cork? Not'that I know of; I have not heard of any. I believe they are indiscrimi- nately called townlands and ploughlands. . ri . , A68 Then, for the purposes of your local taxation 111 Cork, you have no dis- tinction between townlands and ploughlands, and you call them, indiscriminately, either ?— Yes; we call them ploughlands 111 the applotment. _ 469. Do you recollect the valuation that took place 111 1828 r— Y es. 470. That was the last valuation that took place antecedently to the general registry in 1832 under the Reform Bill?— Yes. 471." Was there 110 intermediate valuation ?— No; there was a supplementary valuation between 1832 and 1833. 472. Have you brought with you the valuation of 1828 and the subsequent valuation?— I have them in town, and I will producetherti the next day. 473. How came the valuation to take place in 1832 or 1833 ?— In consequence of several houses not being in the valuation of 1828, which had been built between 1828 and 1832, and it was thought right to make a supplemental valuation. 474. Did you, as treasurer, feel it to be your duty to inspect the list of registered householders of 10/. ?— I did not do it as treasurer; I did inspect it for my own satisfaction. 475. With what view; was it to see whether there were any persons upon it as 10/. householders that were not in the valuation ?— It was to classify the different voters. 476. Did you compare the list of those who were registered as 10 house- holders with those that appeared in the valuation of 1828 ?— Yes, I did. 477. Did you, in point of fact, find that there were persons upon the register as 10 /. householders who were not in the valuation ?— I did. 478. Did you ascertain whether any of those were persons who occupied houses that had existed at the time of the valuation in 1828, as well as persons that occupied new houses that had been built since 1828 ?— I cannot say that 1 ascertained that they were persons who occupied in 1828, but they were per- sons that did not occupy, certainly, at the time of the registry. 479. Mr. Beamish.] Wras not the valuation in 1833 a supplemental valuation, not a valuation with the view of revising the valuation of 1828 ?— Not at all; it was attempted to revise the valuation of 1828 by the valuators, and the grand jury would not admit it. 480. It was merely with a view of taking in such houses as had been built subsequent to 1828, and did not appear upon the books ?— Yes. 481. Mr Serjeant Jackson.] Is it part of your duty to attend at the sittings ot the grand jury of the city of Cork ?— It is. tn f8: oi J> i yT\ kri0W Whe. ther' j? P° int of fact> P ™ s petitioned the grand jury to be absolved from taxation, alleging their premises " " ' " .. . ' o-" o not to be therefore not taxable who nevertheless appeared upon the register holders ?— I know that there were such persons. 483. Do you happen to know how number. many ?— I cannot worth 5 /., and as 10 /. house- exactly say the 484. Can you state in round numbers: 485. Mr. Curry '.] Were the petitions writing. — I should state over 20, at all events, m writing ?— The petitions were in 486. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Where are tl. pv ? T 1, + i small applications, and as they were dechl ha^. them1 Ilot 5 th « y were aside. } decided by the grand jury they were thrown 487. Is
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