Mr. J MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE • • v nf Municipal Corporations in Ireland; in the first place, will •. c. Reward. Commissioners of Mimicipai ^ 1 1833. you state what t ^ e a J en he commissi oners state to be 7 February ,838. 421 Will you state• hat number 0 stated to be 2,665. ^ ow m^ t^ L^^ Slent, and how many non- resident? Ofthose 1 072 are resident, and 1,593 are non- resident. 42 ™ By the Reform Act residents alone are entitled to vote for Members of P^ rH~ y, therefore, are, by the passing- of the Reform Bill, cut off from V04" f. moLri^ fs^ fabTo^ d by the Reform Bill? Yes; those persons "" LToTthose whowere left as residents, were there not a considerable number who were struck off and replaced by a decision of Baron Pennefather ?- No, none ofthose that were left as residents were struck oft and replaced by Baron Pennefather; but he put upon the list 368 that were non- resident. 427. In " non- residents' ' you include 110 freemen within seven miles of the usual polling place?— No. . . 428. Where is the usual polling place?— The usual polling- place is 111 the centre of the city; in fact it comes almost to the county of the city; so that the extent of the liberties is almost equal to the seven miles. 429. Is there any direction in which the liberties of the city extend seven miles' distance from the polling place?— No, I do not think there is. 430. There are many places in which the liberties of the city do not extend seven miles; but of course the freemen would be equally entitled to vote if they resided within the seven miles ?— Yes. 431. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] You state that you have grand panel of the freemen; how do persons come upon that grand panel; is it upon their being admitted freemen, or is it upon their being sworn freemen ?— Upon their being- sworn freemen. 432. Then, upon that grand panel, there are no persons' names who are not sworn freemen ?— No. 433. Mr. Serjeant Ball.] Are there any instances in Cork of persons assuming to act as freemen without being sworn ?— I never heard of any instance. 434. What is the form of swearing the freemen; do they subscribe an affidavit ?— They do. 435. Are those affidavits preserved ?— There are a great many of them; I found a great many in the office when I came to be town- clerk, and I have kept them ever since; they are on long pieces of parchment, and 1 keep them with the signatures at the foot of them. 436. Is there any evidence of the freemen being sworn if the affidavits are lost?— Yes; there is a book of the admission of freemen kept, and in the margin of this book is marked, " Sworn such a clay." 437. Is that done in every case ?— That has been done in every case in my time, and was done for some years before. 438. Is the memorandum in the margin authenticated by any signature ? 439- Who makes that memorandum ?— Sometimes I do it in my own hand- writing, and sometimes it is done by my clerk; but nobody's name is ever put upon the panel until he is sworn. 440. Mr Beamish.] Are there many instances of men being admitted upon he panel who have not served their apprenticeship, who have been admitted in light of servitude r— A gentleman who has been summoned, Mr. Meagher crave ^ IfTT ^ h6/ aid' W6re admitt6d Under questionable circuit ^ M ^ inquiry about each of them. I have not the list m my pocket; but, with the permission of the Committee I will brin< r it upon a future day, and explain the circumstances. ' g youwerfimtC ™ J ™ ^ in t(? a ^ estion ^ Chairman, that you were not aware of any other section in the Act referring to the forms of thp man