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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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2 7 - Mr. O. E. Barber. 12 March 1838. MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE .000 There was, first of all, an arrangement to be made from the printed list so as to allot to them the names which they were respectively to investigate , — Certainly, that was necessary in order to do it effectually. 6000 Then in the way of making your arrangements there stood first the perplexity actually resulting from that want of a local arrangement of the claimants, and the great number of persons of the same name \ es. booi Were there a great number of persons who happened to be in the same quarter] and a great number who happened to be of the same name .-— A great TooT When they had made their arrangements in that respect, by abstract- in- and classifying the names, did they then proceed to visit ? I cannot say that they did • we gave them their instructions, and then we called upon them to report,' and they stated their inability to report, and the sessions came on so closely that they were obliged to go into court with such preparation as they ^ 6003. Before they could proceed to do the business devolved upon them, must they not to some degree have made their arrangements ?— I should sup- pose they made some arrangement amongst themselves as to the quarters they would °- o into, and where they should make their inquiries ; and it would appear " that they had done something of the kind from the manner in which information was " given to us at the registry. 6004. Did each triplet go together?— Each three went together, for this reason, that we could not tell how the arrangements would be at the sessions, as to where the names would be; and each person was obliged to be prepared to go wherever he might be wanted, in consequence of the division that should be. made by the registering barristers. 6005. That resulted from the way in which the names were allotted afterwards among the barristers ?— Yes ; each individual was obliged to be prepared to go into any of the three courts where those three gentlemen should sit. 6006. Do you recollect the commencement of the sessions ?— Perfectly. 6007. Did the barristers all sit together at first ?— They did. 6008. How long did they continue sitting together ?— I should suppose the greater part of a day. They separated towards the latter end of the day to their respective places for their respective registries ; but at the first part of the day they sat together to form a plan for themselves as to what they should do when they separated. 6009. You mean on the first day, the 10th of October?— Yes. 6010. Did you attend there?—- Yes, I attended there the whole of that day ; I attended the No. 1 booth for many days. 6011. Do you recollect what occurred after you made your arrangements, and began to proceed to business ?— Perfectly. There were but two persons in the first instance answered to their names on the calling over the householders and the freemen; the third name was a householder, a person of the name of Joseph Ahern, of Fair- lane, a victualler. 0012. Do you recollect his appearing?— I do, perfectly; I know the man very well. 0013. Was any objection taken to him ?— There was. 6014. Upon whose part ?— Upon the part of the Conservatives ; hi fact our object was to have a bona fide register ; we did not care who the persons were, provided they were bona fide registered, and persons legally entitled to vote. 6015. That is to say, that men who came up as householders should have a bona fide 10I. tenement ?— Yes, that was our object; and it was considered that he had not, and we understood that his mother was the tenant of the house, and that he only lived with his mother, and that she was the rent- payer. Yes° l5' D° > 0U rec° llect any witness being called to sustain that objection?— 6017. Who was that ?- Captain William Henry Allen, who had been pay- master of the Cork City Militia, and a son of the alderman who had been mayor of Cork, and in consequence of the reduction of the office of the militia lie was then unemployed, and he was one of the persons we employed for that district, the parish of St Ann and Mary Shandon; he was called as a witness, and he went upon the table. 60, 8. He was one of the three ?— One of the three ; the whole of the persons l mentioned attended the court when the barristers were sitting together. 601 Q. Was
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