20 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE , . , „,.„ vpvu lion- 5 I I think that the deduction is Mr. . I. e. Bernard. 51 value, but I thmk hey we. e « J « ^ ai; d ten. n0' h;:, grue" smore value than 5 I. whose names do ^. fe^ fr^ n^ l^ e any houses not in the valuator's ^ tS~ eialueoflo/.?- No; I < lo not thmk that there , s any such 7 February 1838. 61 list disproportion gtated that ou consider that there are many houses undervalued by the valuators ?— Yes; I think they make some deduction gene- ralt that thev set out upon that principle, not to go to the full value. 378. What amount of deduction do you think they made upon principle ?- It would be difficult to determine that. 379- Do you think they ever made a 100 per cent, difference ?- No, nothing hk% o' Di( i they ever make 20 per cent, difference, do you think ?- 1 can hardly undertake to say ; I know they made no such difference with respect to myself. 381. Do you think that intentionally they ever valued a house at 5 /. that was worth 10 I.}— I am confident they never did. 382. Did they, in your belief, ever value a house at 7 I. that was in reality worth 10/?— I do not believe they ever have made such a difference as that. 383. Mr. Curry.] How near do you think they went; did they ever value a house at 8 I. the real value of which was 10 /.?— I think it is probable they did ; but I would not have my judgment taken upon this, because I am not compe- tent to speak upon it. 384. You said that the manner in which the names were returned by claimants themselves who come to register prevented the persons who wished to investigate their claim, having sufficient opportunity to do so, and as a reason for that, you mentioned that there was 110 description given in the return made by the claim- ant of the property out of which lie claimed to register ?— Yes. 385. Will you look at the schedules annexed to the Irish Reform Act. You see that there is a separate column in which the property out of which they come to register must be mentioned }-— Yes. 386. Under the Act of Parliament also, must not the clerk of the peace publish a printed list of all the applicants 10 days before the registration?— Yes. 387. Is there not in that printed list also a separate column stating the barony or parish in which his property is situated ?— Yes ; but the person may give any fanciful name be pleases for his residence, and state that the property is in the same place. My knowledge of the circumstance is founded upon this: In the year 1833. when it was understood that all persons registered were to become burgesses, I began to inquire about it; I went to a gentleman who is the collector of the cess for the liberties of Cork, who has been so 15 years, and I showed him this, and he said " I cannot tell who they are." 388. What description of claimants were they ; were they claimino- as lease- holders ?— As householders. 389. They were not within the limits of the city?- No, in the liberties. 390. Were those persons who gave in the notices the fanciful names that they chose to give to their places afterwards permitted to register on those notices 3 — 1 es, they were. T ,3mnnfMl"' n '{' 0\ Conndl^ , Can you Sive an instance of a fanciful name?— he sdd ' I do^ otT mSt; TCe; 1hut thle g^ fian pointed them out to me, and many years 1 ^ th° Ugh 1 have been Collector for « / j * 392. Were those in the rural district within the liberties of Cork >- Yes 3! K • Did they state the name of the townland or parish ?- They never men oi 0?, r 1'" n3' ,,,'- tan, Ce; 1 " eVCT saiv the P ™ h mentioned. 394. 9 "><= Poland In some instances they mentioned the name of a ...