SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. , ^ j / J / j at rate- b00k - -" at the . — . M. 5693. It was 110 assistance to you in the valuation ?— No 5694 Mr. Beamish.] In examining those premises, did you inquire the rents paid by the parties at the time you went round ?— I did. 1 5695. Was it from ascertaining the rents paid, or from your opinion of the appearance of the premises or both combined, that you were satisfied as to the value of the premises ?— As I mentioned before, both combined ; as I went round I ascertained most minutely, to satisfy my mind as to the evidence that I should be obliged to give, m the event of a scrutiny. 5696- Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] You have been 12 years living in Cork?— Thereabouts. 5697. During that time your attention was directed to ship- brokering- ?— More particularly to ship- brokering; that was my calling. 5698. Before you had come to reside in the city of Cork, you say you had been residing in the country ?— In my boyish days I was there" occasionally and at school. 5699. Did you at once embark in business?— No; I served my time to my brother. 5700. What business is he ?— A ship- broker. 5701. And when you were out of your time you devoted yourself to the same business ?— Yes. 5702. When did you leave the city of Cork?— I got out of business in 1835, I think it was. 5703. At the very period of the election?— No, it was after ; I think it was in May 1835. 5704. And then you retired to the country ?— Yes. 5705. How far from Cork is Barry's Lodge?— About eight miles. 5706. And you have been applying yourself to country occupations since ?— Farming, and being concerned in the purchase of com. 5707. But at neither period was your attention at all directed to the particular subject- matter of the valuation of buildings, or the expense of erecting edifices? — Not particularly so ; not more than by general observation. 5708. You had" nothing to do with commission business in the purchase and sale of houses ?— Nothing. 5709. Mr. Beamish.'] Did you visit the premises of John Murphy, of Fair- lane ?— I did. 5710. Did you ascertain the rent he paid ?— I have got that set down here at Gl. ground- rent, and it must have been 6 I. Irish. 5711. Do you know what he was valued at, or whether he was valued in the rate- books ? I have a reference here that his rate- receipt was produced to me. 5712. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Have you a recollection with regard to that individual, of having seen his rate- receipt ?— No; but I have marked down R. P., receipt produced. 5713. Mr. Beamish.] Was that a receipt for his rate, or tor his rent !— iror his" rates; I know that I satisfied myself as to the value, by my having put d° 57i4.' Was the receipt produced for rent, or for rates ?— For rates, not for V7i 5 Did you see the receipt for his rent, or how did you ascertain the rent he paid?— I have it set down here, el. Irish, that is 51. 10s. 9d. British, for the ground lent. _ 1 IT wPVp annrised that, this nerson, John from rating in consequence of his premises not being oi 5 value ; ~ lead you to doubt whether you might not have made a mistake 111 the initials from the rating, and was struck out by the grand jury, he wo£ ld not be liable ?- I have only given the evidence that I ascertained at the time. You r L L 2 J' 0.46.