24T not at that time; it was as much for ascer- of the or s e l e c t c o m m i t t e e oN f i c t i t i o u s v o t e s , i r e l a n d . sJ7' to me to ascertain the payment of rates or rates as for value. , . J641' Jt 7s a Particular object of your investigation at that time to 5644 Did you make any remark in your book as to the nature of his premises ? - Not m this book 1here was a day- book that I had then, which I have not 5645. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.} Where is that day- book ?- I do not know what became of it. I never dreamed that I should be asked for this book now It was necessary that I should have that book to put down particulars, to po^ t'into this book. r 5646. Chairman.} Have you ever had any connexion in point of propertv residence with the city of Cork ?— I was residing in the city of Cork. 5647. As what?— As a ship- agent. 5648. Did you pay any rates at that time?— I did. 5649. What were you valued at?— It was out of an office and stores that 1 registered. 5650. Can you state to the Committee what you were valued at in the city books ?— I do not know; I believe it was from 15/. to 20/. in the city books, and my rent was 35 5651. Then, in fact, you were rated at one- half the real value as far as your recollection serves you ?— I suppose not more than that. 5652. When were your premises rated ?— I do not know. 5653. Can you state to the Committee what the proportion between the real value and the rated value was at the time you were resident in Cork?— I am not fully prepared to answer the questions upon rates, because I have never inter- fered in any kind of way with them. 5654. You have no knowledge to what extent the valuation for the rate was or was not an accurate representation of the value of the premises ?— I have not. 56.55. Were you at that time acquainted with the value of property in the different parts of Cork ?— I flatter myself that I was a judge of those things, holding property in the county, and having a little knowledge in the local dis- tricts of Cork, so that I could ascertain the value of those houses that I went to visit. 5656. At that time did you feel yourself competent to say what was the fair value, between landlord and tenant, of houses in different parts of the city of Cork ?— I think I was competent. 5657. Did you possess property yourself of that description in the city of Cork?— No. 5658. Were you in any way connected with holding such property, so as to know the rents obtained" for property of different descriptions in the city of Cork ?— No, I did not ascertain that. My knowledge was from ascertaining, as I went along, the rents that the persons had paid ; and that gave me an oppor- tunity to ascertain more minutely the local state of the house. 56 59 Then you started without having any knowledge upon the subject of the value of houses in the city of Cork, but by means of the investigation which you made on behalf of Mr. Callaghan upon that occasion, you felt yourself com- petent to form an opinion ?— It strengthened my opinion. 5660. What was your opinion founded upon before you began this mvesti- o- ation for Mr. Callaghan?— General knowledge. ° 5661. You stated that you neither had property, nor had you m any jay occupied yourself in acquiring knowledge as to the value of houses and premises in Cork previous to that investigation ?— No . 5662. How did you acquire your knowledge of the value of premise, before you began that investigation ?- By no other means than I have statecL .5663 What were those?- From my general knowledge and perception that I could ascertain the value of those. , ™ < oce « 9 5664. How did you attain that knowledge and perception; b} ^ hat process^ 0.46. L L Mr. Henry Barry 8 March 1838.