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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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23 8 minutes o f e v i d e n c e t a k e n b e f o r e t he Mr. Benj. Deeble. 5287. Are you acquainted with such a denomination as that ?- Not in the 7 March 1838. hI 5288.' Are you acquainted with such a denomination in the city or suburbs ?- N05289. Did you ever hear of such a denomination ?- Not in the city or Mr. Beamish.] You know the denomination bounding the city called Ballygarvin ?— I do in the county. 5201 None of that denomination of land comes within the liberties ?— No ; I had a farm adjoining it, and the stream that runs between my farm and Bally- garvin is the boundary of the liberties. • o AT '-, 202. And no portion of that denomination is withm the liberties JNo. 5203. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Then, you do know a denomination called Ballvgarvin, and that it is just outside the limits of the liberties ; so that it is in the county of Cork, and not in the county of the city of Cork ?— It is ; I valued Ballygarvin for tithe composition as in the county, as part of the parish of Carry- galine. " . „ , .5294. Who was the occupier of Ballygarvin, which you say you valued for titiie composition ?— There are several occupiers on it; Mr. Coughlan is one of them : there are 500 or 600 acres in the ploughland. 5295. Mr. Beamish.] Do you think that with such a description as Ballygarvin given here by this man, Coleman, parties desirous of knowing whether he pos- sessed any land or house in that district would be able to find it out?— I imagine they would ; in Ballygarvin they might know whether he lived there or not, by going there. 5296. Do you think they would be able to find out whether such a man lived in the neighbourhood by making inquiry ?— Yes, I think they might; Bally- garvin being a well- known district. 5297. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] But giving notice to register for the city of Cork, of course the public and those interested in the matter would take for granted that the lands out of which he came to register were within the county of the city of Cork ?— They might be misled in that way ; but there are so many names given by individuals, that they might have thought this was a fanciful .5298. But he would have no right to be allowed to be registered at the ses- sions of the city of Cork, unless the lands of Ballygarvin were within the liberties of the city of Cork ?— Certainly. 5299. Although it might give him a vote for the county if he had land suf- ficient, it would not entitle him to register for the city, unless Ballygarvin was within the city ?— Certainly not. 5300. Mr. Beamish.] But still you think the parties might be able to find out whether such a man lived there or not ?— I think so. 5301. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] But that would not satisfy them that there might not be some place called by the fanciful name of Ballygarvin, out of which he meant to register ?— Yes. 5302. Will you state the next instance you find of any denomination you were not acquainted with before?—" Letter C. 460, Patrick Coleman." 5303- ( To Mr. Colburn.) Do you find him in the register ?— Yes ; " Patrick Coleman, farmer, Ballinrin, city of Cork, house and land at Ballinrin; house- holder, 10 I.; registered 15th of November 1832." 53p4- ( To Mr. Deeble.) Are you acquainted with any such denomination as that m the liberties ?— No. 0 ™ 5305• Did you ever hear of it?— No. • 52o6; TMr' Beamish-'] Did you ever hear of such a denomination within the city ?— No. 5307. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Or within the suburbs No 5308. Will you state the next?—" William Hogan, farmer, Ballincarrigo." 5309. Mr. Colburn.] William Hogan, farmer, Ballincarrigo, city of Cork; land at Ballmcarngo; freeholder, 40s. ; registered 20th of October 1832." Baliincarrigo are y° U acquainted with any such denomination as city"?— No didy° U eVer hear ° f any SUCh in the liberties in the suburbs, or in the 5312, Mr.
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