SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. SJ7' 24T Mercurii, 7° die Martii, 1838. MEMBERS PRESENT. Mr. Beamish. Mr. Curry. Mr. Milnes Gaskell. Mr. Serjeant Jackson Mr. Lefroy. Lord Granville Somerset. LORD GRANVILLE SOMERSET, in the CHAIR. w Mr. Julius Caesar Besnard, called in; and further Examined. 50A• Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] IT is understood that you wish to give some Mr / r « , explanation of an answer which you gave on the last day ?- Yes; I was asked ' whether I had any objection to state the rent I paid, and the taxes I paid; I 7 March ,8,8. stated, that the rent I paid was 80 guineas, and that the taxes I paid for the house was upon 90 guineas' valuation. I have had an opportunity since of getting a view of the valuation, and I find that the 90I. includes other concerns which I hold, as well as that, and that the house itself is valued at 65/. 5009. Mr. Beamish.] The house for which you pay 80 guineas is valued at 65/. ?— Yes. Mr. Daniel Meagher, called in; and further Examined. 5010. Mr. Beamish.] CAN you state to the Committee whether any persons Mr. D. Meagher •' ere admitted to register after being rejected by the assistant- barrister, Mr. ° Martley, upon the lodger question?— There were a great number rejected 011 the lodger point by Mr. Martley, and an appeal was lodged to the judge of assize; and the next assizes Judge Perrin sat, and he admitted 68 ; a number of others that were also rejected did not come forward ; from the delay they had expe- rienced before, and the many questions put to them as to their right 011 the lodger point, they refused coming forward, and it had the effect of checking a great number of our household registries. 5011. Will you state how many were admitted upon the appeal to the judge? — Sixty- eight were admitted upon the appeal to the judge, and their names and residences I have drawn out. There were a number of others who appealed, but having lost so much time at the registering sessions, they could not be induced to appear before the judge. 5012. Chairman.] Will you state at what registering sessions they were refused, and at what assizes they were admitted ?— On the 28th and 29th of March 1836 they were admitted by the judge; and they had been rejected at theSeptember sessions of 1835 ; and there were a great many others that did not come forward. 5013. You are aware that there have been different decisions upon this point by different judges?— I know that; Mr. Martley required all those parties to come before him, and after ascertaining that they had lodgers, he rejected them, leaving them to appeal to the judge; I heard that there were other decisions made contrariwise on the lodger point by different judges. 5014. That other judges had decided upon the same view of the question upon which Mr. Martley decided ?— Yes. 5015. Mr. Beamish.] Can you state the names and residences of any persons who voted in 1835, who ran what are called " bucks;" that is to say, who voted upon that occasion, and had not qualification to entitle them so to do :-— 1 Hold m my hand a list of 37 persons who voted at the election of 1835 not having a right to vote, and having run what are called " bucks" 011 us. 5016. Are those names exclusive of persons whose houses Mr. Young anu Mr. Lane have given in evidence ?— They are. . MV 5017. Did those persons vote at the last election 1- 1 do not recognize any G G 3