SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. SJ7' hearcfof " Si?" 8 ^ ^ ~ ^^ * the - Id ; I 4942. Do you know whether he was in any kind of business ?_ I do not. H^?^ not^ egistered. t0 ^ olburn.] Does Uvedale appear upon the register ?- BoTOwt aS, etant JaCkSOn' t0 lMl"- Meagher.-] Did you in your investigations go as rai back as 20 years in searching for improper admissions and improper ; but i happened to know these parties well, and knowing that they f trade, I was sure that it was done for a colourable pretext. ( Mr o not find this man's name at all upon the list of freemen: every man has a right to come and enrol, but the benefit from his enrolment is another tiling. 4946- Can you say with certainty that Uvedale has never been admitted to the freedom ?— Andrew Uvedale was admitted to his freedom, but not servitude; he was admitted in 1820 as a freeman by favour, and he sworn, and does not appear upon the roll of freemen. 4947- ( To Mr. Meagher.) What is the next case ?— The next is John Danckirt; he appears as an apprentice to John Fitzgerald, deputy- postmaster, and as such was admitted to his freedom, and voted at the last election. ( Mr. Besnard.) John Danckirt, jun., gentleman, was admitted as the eldest son of John Danckirt, spirit merchant, on the 28th of July 1824. ( Mr. Meagher.) He was bound apprentice to the deputy- postmaster, and was subsequently admitted a freeman; and though he came in without reference to this enrolment, I complain of the circumstance of one, being a postmaster, taking an apprentice, and the other I mentioned, being a conveyancer and attorney, not being admitted. 4948. But it appears that he was not admitted as an apprentice, but in right of birth, and therefore your objection falls to the ground ?— It does ; but that I could not know till I had the evidence here. Another thing I complain of is, that, after the year 1831, no honorary freeman could be allowed; and I find an enrolment, when that fact becarfie known, of William Croley, bound apprentice to the Rev. Somers Pain, of Upton, in the county of Cork, as a servant. The 2d day of August 1830 is the date of the indenture. 4949. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Do you mean to say that he is admitted a free- man ?— I mean to say that he is enrolled, and can be admitted in five minutes. It was always understood that no apprentice, except he was either of a handicraft or a trade, could be admitted ; but when they found that honorary freemen could not be put on, they put this man on by stratagem. 4950. Chairman.] That is your opinion ; but that man has not been admitted yet ?— X do not know. ( Mr. Besnard.) He has not been admitted yet, certainly. The time would not be out till August 1837; and he certainly has not been admitted since that time; that man will never be admitted to his freedom. 4951. Chairman to Mr. Meagher.] Was not this man, whether rightfully or wrongly, bound as an apprentice long before the Reform Bill was ever thought of?— No; the fact of the honorary freemen ceasing in 1831 must have been known at this date. „ c 4052 Do you mean to state that previous to the ist of March 1831, the Reform Bill was known in any of its particulars?— The particular of the honorary freemen ceasing was known. * It was the law in 1831, and I am sure it must have been o . kn4Q « . n Are you sure that it was the law in 1831 ?- I thought that after the 30th of March 183I no honorary freemen could be made; but I do not know when the Act passed ; but I thought that it passed previously. vpai.,?__ 4954. You have always been a very strong electioneer* for many } eais.- Y64955. Can you state that you were aware previous to the ist of March 1831 that it freemen would be' taZin August 1830 at such a law was going to be made , i„- inference I drew; bnt if it did not pass nil .' ,956 Mr. Lefroy.] That is the gwryo » have to PP- mg ; ^ a fraudulent freeman, and he a country never Mr. D. Meagher. 5 March 1838. G G 4957' Mr,