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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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s e l e c t c o m m i t t e e o n f i c t i t i o u s v o t e s , i r e l a n d . sJ7' 24T 219 4B29. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] You are now speaking of the election when there was an assessor to the sheriff?— Yes. inerc 4830. Did you oppose this man at the registry ?- I am not aware of this man being opposed at the registry. If I had been aware of th— facts T would have opposed him ; but when I did oppose people before Mr. Martley. he said « Sir I find him upon the corporation roll, and you must go to the corporation I can' not interfere with their registration ; I cannot interfere and he registered him in spite of my objection. It was on Mr. Martley's stating that to me that I in open court, addressed the mayor, and requested him to put a stop to this kind of regis- tering, for that it was putting men unfairly upon the roll of freemen. 4831. Are you aware that the assistant barrister, Mr. Hartley," could not bv law have taken any other course?— I presume so; but I did not know it when 1 addressed him, and then I went to the mayor and corporation and addressed them. 4832. Who is the next you complain of ?— Robert Bissett Lawson ; he was nephew and apprentice to John Lawson, hosier, Grand Parade ; he was enrolled the 3d of March 1827, the date of his indenture ; he was admitted a freeman on the 30th of March 1835, and he was sworn that day. John Lawson died of cholera in the year 1832, and that man was improperly admitted ; I knew John Lawson; I knew the young man, and I knew the time of his death, and all the circumstances. 4833. ( To Mr. Besnard.) Do you recollect anything of this case ?— I do not recollect how soon after the execution of the indentures the master died; but I certainly recollect that it was stated to the council that he had died before the expiration of the indentures; and that it was then represented, on the part of the apprentice, that he had continued to perform his duties towards the representatives of his master, and carried on the business for them, and acted as an apprentice to the termination of his indentures ; and he proved that he had continued to act for the representatives of his master. 4834- 5. Was that proved by anything but his own declaration?— Yes; the fact was ascertained, but there was no transfer of the indentures. ( Mr. Meagher.) The widow also died before he could have served seven years ; that man was only for five years with John Lawson, and he was admitted fraudulently, because, after the master's death he had a right to have his indentures transferred to another man, and endorsed and enrolled by Mr. Besnard, neither of which was done. 4836. You say that the apprentice had served five years when the master died? — Yes. 4837. Chairman.] When did Mrs. Lawson die?— She died about 12 or 15 months after her husband. 4838. Mr. Serjeant Jackson, to Mr. Besnard.] Have you any doubt that it was made appear to the corporation that this young man continued to serve after the death of his master, his master's wife and family, the representatives of the de- ceased?— It was made to appear that he continued to serve the representatives ol the deceased ; and I believe the man is in the same establishment still. 4830- 40. Doing business in the same way as he did during his master's lifetime? — Yes ( Mr. Meagher.) It was a Mr. Dant succeeded to John Lawson ; and Dant did not get an assignment of Robert Lawson's indenture; he had no assignment, no enrolment, nor anything upon earth; and yet they admitted him as an appren- tice when he had only served five years; and I charge that as a fraudulent admission. 4841. Chairman, to Mr. Colburn.] Does John Bissett Lawson appear upon the register?— He does, on the 22d of June 1835. _ _ . 4842. ( To Mr. Meagher.) WTas he opposed before the revising barristerr— No; the facts were not known then. 4843. Did you ever communicate to the corporation that that was an imprope, ad4844°'\ v^ en?- To Mr. Besnard, about a week or to days before he left Cork for England. v 4845. That was in the month of January last:— Yes. aZa6 And vou had never before intimated to the corporation that theie was anything ob^ ionabL in it?- My reason is, that after I received the. summons, I JentSo the roll to see it; - clth^^^ m^ om upo^ the roll. ^ 4847- What is the next His indentures are to have served his apprenticeship to William Childs nailer enrolled and dated the i^ h of May 1829. William Childs, his of July 1836, and was sworn the 21st of September 1630. C F F 2 O. 46. Mr. D. Meagher. 5 March 1838. master.
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