s e l e c t c o m m i t t e e o n f i c t i t i o u s v o t e s , i r e l a n d . sJ7' 24T Taylor's advertisement, as successor to Robert Young. When John Youn* returned from the relation- court, he boasted of his admission. Taylor could not have served his seven years, and therefore was illegally admitted. Now I want to know why that man was admitted. ( Mr. Besnard.) I remember that th usual course *, for the person to put in a petition stating the nght. and pray n, to be admitted ; and that is usually accompanied by an affidavit attached to it that the facts stated in it are true. I remember the circumstance of this man's claim ; and it was a subject of consideration with the common council, whether he should be admitted or not. This man's claim was under consideration, upon the ground of Mr. Young having quitted the business; but it appeared to them that although he had parted with his interest in the establishment, yet that this vouii. r man continued to act for him in collecting debts, in some measure as his appren- tice would do; and they thought it would be hard that the man should, merely because his master had thought fit to change his business, lose the opportunity of having his freedom when he really was serving him, though not exactly in" the usual way, by collecting his debts, and they admitted him upon that ground. 4791. Chairman.] Were the indentures of apprenticeship produeecf?— Yes; and they had been enrolled. 4792. What was the date ot those indentures ?— 7th of May 1821). 4793. He was admitted upon the 8th of August 1836?— Yes. 4794- To that extent he was right; the only question was, whether he con- tinued an apprentice during the whole of that period ?— Yes; whether he sufficiently served his master by collecting his debts. 4795. Did it appear whether or no his indentures had been cancelled ?— No ; they had never been cancelled. 4796. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.'] Did you ever understand that the title of a per- son to be admitted a freeman in right of apprenticeship depended upon the quantum or the quality of the service which he rendered to his master?— No; 1 never did. 4797. If a man to whom an apprentice is indentured chooses to alter his line of business, or to extend his business, or to diminish it, has it ever been understood that it varied the right of an indentured apprentice to the freedom, if he served out his time?— I never understood that it did; but there are certain descriptions of business which are considered not to entitle a man to take an apprentice who will be admitted to his freedom, as an attorney. 4798. It must be a trade ?— It must be a trade. 4799. But suppose a youth is articled to a man in trade, and his indentures are regularly enrolled, and the young man continues to do whatever he is required by his master to do, be it much or little, has it ever been understood in Cork that the circumstance of his master having extended his trade, or contracted his trade, varied the right of the apprentice so continuing to serve under articles uncan- celled ?— No.° 4800. You were understood to say, that the court had evidence before them that this young man did continue to serve his master as far as his master required; for example, in collecting his debts ?— Yes. 4801. Mr. Beamish.'] Was it not the fact that the master had resigned the trade?— I believe he had. 4802. Was it not the fact that the master had retired from the trade in which he was?— So I understood. 4803. And had thereby relinquished his right to continue him as an apprentice to that trade ?—' That is the very point. . 4804. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] As a gentleman who has had considerable expe- rience as a professional man, do not you consider that the apprentice would have had a right, if the corporation had refused to admit him to apply to the Court ot Kings Bench for a writ of mandamus ?- I have never heard the qua ton ra^ ed and of course I have not known it to be determined ; and therefore I feel mjselt incompetent to determine upon it. . , 4805. You have never known the question deeded one way or the other. No, nor even raised. . Phineas Garde 4806- 7. Mr. Beamish.] What is the next instance you ^ e - Phineas Garde a jeweller and silversmith apprenticed to Thomas Garde jeweller - ° March 1827 ; admitted a freeman the 9th of March 183,, and sworn e , March 1835. Thomas Garde, the master, sailed from Cork to the Brazil in 1827, in company with James Connor, now residing , n Grattan- street, consequently, 0.46. F F