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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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Mr. D. Meagher. • i March 1838. , 0 4 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE names1 Because by signing as marksmen, the necessity of reading was put upon me and noi upon them; whereas if they signed their own names the necessity'of reading would be upon them. 4- 80 Where they could read well you think they preferred your reading it to reading it themselves ?— I am quite certain of it. 4, Si Mr. Beamish."] Was not the difficulty very great from the want of accommodation for the parties to write their own names .'- I could get six men despatched by my mode of doing it, when they could not get two men des- ^ 45^ 2! ^ Vafnot the sole object of affixing the marks to get them despatched ? — Decidedly. . . ,, . __ ^ 4583. Not with any idea or desire to put improper men upon the register? — Not with the most remote idea of it. 4- 84 Mr. Lefroy.] Do not you think that a conscientious man who could read would much prefer reading what he was to swear himself, to taking it from the reading of another ?— I think there are many conscientious men that could read that preferred hearing me read it. 4585. Did they tell you so ?— No ; but I know their character. 4586. Did you offer it in any instance to those men to read themselves?—- I did. 4587. Did they refuse ?— Some read it partly, and then said, " We would rather hear you read it than read it ourselves." 4588. So you thought it better to register them as marksmen than not to register them at all ?— Decidedly; I wanted to extend the franchise as widely as I could under the Reform Act. That was my sole object. 4.589. Mr. Beamish.] Without any disposition to commit a fraud of any kind p— Decidedly; I would not allow a man to register improperly. Mr. James Lane, called in : and further Examined. ,, , r 45QO. Chair M r. James Lane. ~ nnan.] HAVE you any observations to make to the Committee, or any corrections that you wish to make in your evidence ?— I have. On 1 looking closely to the books I find, 011 going to other places, that some people describe their place in the registry in a different street from where they were on the rate- books. The first person I wish to mention is John Collins, of Douglas- street, in the Paper No. 2. I find, 011 looking at the collectors' rate- books, that Collins paid on a valuation of 7 I. in White- street. Not finding him in Douglas- street I returned him as not rated. He should be placed on the list valued under 10/. The next is a person of the name of Daniel Hurley, Barrack- street, a warehouse at Cove- street. In like manner I find, on referring to Hur- ley's payment of rates in Barrack- street, that that payment of rates of 5/. value was also^ in Cove- street. The next is a person of the name of Andrew Moore of Shine's- yard. I have no such place as Shine's- yard in my books ; but I have the name of Francis- street, and he is valued at 8 /. in Francis- street. The next is John Scanlan, in Mannix's- square. I find that he is valued in Mannix's- street at 81. 4.591. Are Mannix's- square and Mannix's- street the same place ?— I should think they were. I was not at all aware of any such place as Mannix's- square. 1 he next is Patrick Cremin, in Rochford's- lane, a house and concerns in Roch- ford s- lane. I have no such person in Rochford's- lane ; but on looking at the situation of the place and the collectors' books, I find that he paid for Griffin's- ailey ; Rochford s- lane leads into Griffin's- alley. 4592. What is the value ?—£. 16. The next is Henry White, Coppythorn- hill In like manner I have no place at Coppythorn- hill; but on looking at the books, I find that m Devonshire- street, which is one and the same place; he is valued at 4a I. 1 ' u5!! 3' WiU ru, 11.00k t0 >; our books t0 see whether a person of the name of Murphy was valued m 1828 for a house in Barrack street, out of which George valued a?} 12/! reS1Stered ?~ There is * Person of the name of Mary Murphy October ^ ff ® ame. hous? tliat George Nevil Daly afterwards lived in?- In vjcto _> ei 1832 I see Murphy paid the rates on that house 4595- - low long after 1832 did she pay the rates on that house?- In March 1832
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