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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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/ Af SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. ,4, ^ h° ldS Mr. D. Meagher. 3232 What do you mean by " doubtful value? "— When I have any doubt 26 February 1838. as to the value though it maybe value in my own mind, I always write " doubtful value ; ' that it was not that kind of value that I would" sustain before the Committee. 3233. Did you refer to Mr. Gould at the same time ?— I did; and his opinion • coincided with mine. 1 3234. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Then you are not quite sure that this concern was not worth 10 I. ?— My having put it down as « doubtful value," shows me that it was not of that value that I would sustain before this Committee. 3235. Does " doubtful" mean that you are not certain whether it is value or not r— The words " doubtful value " signify, that though I may have a doubt of the value, there may be others that would sustain that value that have a better knowledge of the locality. 3236. Then, putting it down as « doubtful value," means that you doubt whether it is value or not ?— When I say " doubtful value," I mean that I will not support the value. 3237. Are you prepared to say positively that it is not of value ?— No; if I was, I would say " not value." 3238. Will you turn your attention to the description given of it by Mr. Young, in answer to question 1/ 09: " Was it originally a small tenement?" He says, " It was not small; but it was so ruinous it was dangerous to go up the stairs. I went up stairs to see it; the partitions were all broken." Is that a true description ?•— It may be. 3239. Did you go into it ?— When I found the value doubtful I passed 011 without losing time. 3240. But, in order to arrive at that conclusion, you must have examined it? — I must have looked inside, and in a general manner coincided with that view of it, or I would not have put down " doubtful value." 3241. Then you do coincide with Mr. Young's description of it?— I think I must have done so. 3242. You went into the house?— I did. 3243. You went up stairs in it ?— I did. 3244. Do you agree in that description of it?— As to the ruinous state that he speaks of, I am not prepared to say. 3245. Then do you mean that you have no present recollection in your mind as to the state of the house ?— No ; I cannot bring it to my recollection, so as to give a satisfactory answer. 3246. Suppose that was a true description of it, that " it was so ruinous that it was dangerous to go up stairs," and that when you went up stairs " the par- titions were all broken," would you say that it was even doubtful whether it was of the value of 10/. a year ?— No ; I think there could be 110 doubt, if it was of that description, that it would not be worth 10/.; I think my note would be that it was " not value." 3247. Then, finding that your note is " doubtful value," are you prepared to contradict the description given by Mr. Young ?— No; but my idea is that it must not be so dilapidated as he represents. 3 748 Mr. Beamish.] Do you either contradict or confirm the description of Mr. Young ?— No, I do not; when I found it doubtful, I did not go into that minute inquiry that I would where I wanted to support the value. 0940 Chairman.] Parts of this house were let out ?— Yes. 3250. What proportion?— He pays a rent of five guineas; the lower part was set for 11. a year, the upper part was worth 3 /., as he stated. 3251. Which was the most valuable part of the two?— I should suppose the 10 ™ Do you mean from your own knowledge, or from his statement?— From my own view of it and his statement together. _ 3253. Do you mean to state that the lower part of the house was worth / I. • annually ?— That was my opinion. . . T, 32.54. Then the only part you doubted about was the up- stairs part .— That was the part 1 doubted about. e A11 < c O Mr. Beamish.-] Did you visit the house of Terence Sweeny, of Allens lane who is spoken lo by Mr. Young, in answer 1/ 2/ • I did; tins mans 0.46. T 3
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