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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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. ,46 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE ,, ; onoR Mr Lucas 1 Is it stone or brick ?— It is stone, and slated roof. M" Mca^ ^ Mr! Seijeant Jackson.} How many stories ?- I cannot say at this dis- ficient value to enable me to 2012. Did you see the house ?— I did. . . ; 2913. Cannot you state whether it was or was not in good repair .-— I think it was. . 2914. And a good roof upon it i— les. 2915. And all in good repair?— Yes. _ „ 291.6 The windows all good, and the stairs good .— As I before said, I could not by possibility keep 100 or 120 houses in my mind, so as to answer these nice ^ 29 l^ Have you any definite idea at this moment of that particular case ?— I have; my positive statement to the Committee is, that it is value for 101, a year. 2018. Can vou at all recall to mind what state the house was in when you saw jt ?_ j\ To, I cannot; I will refer to my book to see what it says : on referring to my book, I find " James Miller, carpenter; ground- rent four guineas; pur- chased it for 201.; built it; value for 107.;" that is all I have in my book. 2019. Have you no memory at all with regard to this particular house?— I think I have a memory of every house here. 2920. Will you state what state the house was in when you saw it ?— I cannot give a particular answer ; I can only give a general answer, but not particular; but I satisfied my own mind, and so did Mr. Gould: the only way I can satisfy the Committee is, to give it upon my own knowledge of the value, and the situation of the place. 2921. Who is the landlord?— I do not know whether I inquired as to the landlord at all. 2922. What ground have you for the statement, that he paid 20 I. for it?— His own statement. 2923. Do you know the man?— I do. 2924. He is a truth- telling man, is he?— I think so ; I think he could have no object in telling me a falsehood. 2925. Did he know for what purpose you went there ?— I cannot say. 2926. l) o you know to whom the 20 I. was paid ?— No; I presume to the owner of the ground. 2927. Did you ask him when he paid it?— No ; for the purpose I went for, I did not care if they ever paid rent; my object was to ascertain the value. 2928. It was no object of yours to know whether he did or did not pay that fine ?— I know that at a ground- rent of four guineas, the house could never have been placed upon that ground without laying out a sum for the purchase- money, the interest of which should be worth 10 I. a year. 2929. Did you see any receipt for the 20 I. ?— No, I did not. 2930. Did you ask him to show you any receipt ?— No. 2931. You did not ask him to show you any evidence of his having paid the 201. ?— No. " 01 2932. Do you recollect his building the house ?— No. 2933. Have you any authority, but his own word, for his having built the house-— None, coupled with my own view. 2934. Did you see his lease ?— No. 2935. Did you tell him that you were summoned here to give evidence as to the value of houses ?— I do not know that I did. whether he knew it ™ ^ PUrP° Se Wbkh 5'° U WGnt there 1 do not know thuth'\ 1) 0 y0U b! we. that lie was aware of what your purpose was ?— I believe hfch oZlnIT f * Was S0methius connected with the registry; but as to on A W my ? 011tg 0Ver here' 1 d0 not think he knew it. value to I^ lZ^ f l theTq, rti0U was' wkether his house was of sufficient SnrrounTton^ 0? d° n,°! think he was, because there were parties thef^ re verv 7 ° h° USeS for the PurP « se of taxation, and me) were very? coy of giving the real rents. 2939. But he would not expect that of you ?— No. 2940. You
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