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Second Report from the Select Committee of the Local Taxation of the City of Dublin

09/07/1823

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Second Report from the Select Committee of the Local Taxation of the City of Dublin

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Do the prisoners get any proportion of the produce of their labour ?—' They do. nrnnrntinn do thev pet?— Thev crnt nnp half lnt^ Kr Knt o lot/ What proprotion they get ?— They have got one half, till lately, but a late Act of Parliament reduced it to one third. Can you state what that amounted to, during any given time ?— I can; I can state what the profit on the works was during any given time; the net profits on the works of Richmond bridewell, from the 3d of December 1821, till the 27th of March 1823, were 364/. 55. What do you mean by the net profit ?— The sum delivered in after paying the prisoners for their labour, and all expenses deducted. Does not that sum go towards the maintenance of the prisoners ?— It does. What is the name of the deputy governor?— Archibald Wilson. How is he appointed, and what is his salary ?— He was appointed by the magis- trates of the head office; his salary was 100 a year, and was raised by order of the court of King's Bench to 150/. Mention the names of the matron, the schoolmaster, and the other assistants, and their different salaries ?— The matron, is Margaret Frew, her salary is 80/. a year; the clerk, is Patrick Brophy, his salary is 52I. a year; the schoolmaster, is James Mc Gowan, his salary is 201, a year; there are six assistants, at 52 /. a year each. Do not you inspect Smithfield penitentiary ?— I do. What is the name of the governor, and what is his salary, and by whom ap- pointed ?— His name is John Marston, and he is appointed by the magistrates of the head office, on account of his services in that bridewell, when it belonged to government, Do you know whether he is related to any member of the corporation ?— He is not. Who recommended Mr. Marston ?— Indeed I do not think he was recom- mended, he required no recommendation ; I think he was appointed solely because he had been governor under the government, and when the government gave up that prison, the magistrates re- appointed him. What number of prisoners does the Smithfield penitentiary contain ?— I think, the average is one hundred and fifty. Is there any classification ?— A decided classification between the boys and females, and a decided classification between the boys, during the day time, but there is only the same yard for them all to play in. Are they engaged in any labour ?— They are continually employed. Do they get any portion of the profits ?— Yes, they get one- fourth. Is there any school established ?— There is. How many assistants are there in the prison?— Including three servants belong- ing to the master and mistress, and one servant for the house, there are eight. Do you mean eight assistants in teaching?— No, eight in all. Who is the protestant chaplain ?— The Rev. Thomas Gamble. He is your father, is he not?— He is. How long has he been chaplain to the prisons of Dublin ?— Forty years. Is his duty more or less now, than when he was originally appointed ?— It is much more, it is increased in a greater proportion than that of the other officers, for he had only the gaol of Newgate when he was appointed, and he has now the sheriff's prison, the gaol of Newgate, and the two bridewells. Is his salary increased ?— No, it is not increased, the maximum salary by law is 100/. a year, which he has, but the great hardship which he labours under is with respect to the Smithfield penitentiary, he had a salary of 120/. a year, as clerical visitor in that prison, under government. When that penitentiary was under government?— Yes; he enjoyed that for twenty- one years, when the government gave up that penitentiary, and it became a city prison, the duty of that penitentiary was then added to his other duties, but he lost the salary. Did he state his case to the grand jury ?— He did; the grand jury regretted they could not interfere, but recommended the case strongly to the lord lieutenant, but the lord lieutenant had not power to interfere, though his case was one of extreme hardship. Who is the architect for the prisons iu Dublin?— Henry Aaron Baker. Will you state his salary and his duties ?— His salary is fifty guineas a year, and his duty is to check all building accounts, and for repairs ; to inspect all works ; to attend the grand jury; to suggest repairs, and to see that they are properly executed ; his duty has been more than doubled, without increase of salary. Rev. P. R. Gamble. ( 12 May.) 549- Do
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