12 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE the grand jury, and are to account to the grand jury for the expenditure of public money ?— They are unquestionably so. What do you mean by accountants ?— Persons who account for money which has been previously presented to them by the grand jury. Will you turn to page 108; you will see a presentment for carrying into effect the building of a bridewell of 1,050/.; to whom is that presentment made?— To Aldermen Exshaw, Darly, Archer, Cash, and Nugent; and to Francis Hamilton and John Tudor, sheriffs- peers. Are you acquainted with those two latter gentlemen?— Not personally. Are they members of the corporation of the city of Dublin ?— Unquestionably ; one of them has since become an alderman, and the other is a magistrate of police, elected by the corporation. Mr. White is named there as being governor of the house of correction, to whom a presentment of 150/. is made?— He is. Are you aware whether he is a member of the corporation ?— I believe him to be a member of the corporation, a sherifF's- peer, and married to the widow of the late Alderman Hutton. In point of fact, with respect to the annual payment of 1,000/. was not that to pay government for what they laid out ?— I believe the sum expended by govern- ment has not yet been repaid by the grand jury. Do you know who had the control of the expenditure of that money ?— I believe government had the control of its original expenditure. Then a very considerable number of persons who appeared upon the face of that return as receiving presentments, are persons who appear upon the face of the return as being also members of the grand jury?— Unquestionably. Mr. John McMullen. ( 30 April.) Jovis, 1° die Maii, 1823. Mr. John McMullen, again called in; and Examined. ( 1 May ) ^^ whom are the presentments made to which you alluded in Michaelmas term 1820, for white washing and painting?— To Mr. Charles Thorp. Is that gentleman a member of the corporation ?— He is the present high sheriff of Dublin. Can you inform the Committee who are the present officers receiving salaries from the grand jury of the city of Dublin?— There is, first, the secretary of the grand jury. Who is that gentleman ?— Mr. Alexander Montgomery; the next is the treasurer of public money, Mr. William Darley; the public accountant, Mr. Daniel Hutton ; inspector of prisons, the Reverend P. R. Gamble; protestant chaplain, the Reverend Thomas Gamble ; dissenting chaplain, the Reverend James Horner; Roman ca- tholic chaplain, the Reverend Lawrence Morrissy; physician to prisons, Doctor William Harty; surgeon to ditto, Mr. Alexander Read; Architect to ditto, Mr. H. R. Baker; gaoler of Newgate, Mr. Frederick Bourne ; deputy gaoler of ditto, Mr. Robert Gilbert; keeper of Smithfield penitentiary, Mr. D. E. Marston; governor of Richmond bridewell, Mr. Thomas Purden; deputy governor of ditto, Mr. R. Wilson. Are those gentlemen, generally speaking, gentlemen connected with the corpo- ration of the city of Dublin?— Yes, I think they are. Is Mr. William Darley of the family of the alderman ?— He is brother to Alderman Dailey. Is Doctor Harty a relation of the alderman of that name ?— He is brother to the alderman of that name, and brother- in- law to Alderman M'Kenny. Is Mr. Read, the surgeon, of the family of the late Alderman Read ?— I have been told he is son- in- law to Mr. Long, the police magistrate. Are you aware of any Act of Parliament, authorizing the appointment of a public accountant for the city of Dublin?— I am not; but I believe there h such an Act. Do you know what are the duties of that public officer ?— As far as I am informed, his duty is to examine the accounts of the treasurer and grand jury. Has there been any considerable increase in the salaries of the public officers of the grand jury ?—' There has been in some instances recently. Can you give any instances to that effect?— The salaries of the inspector and of the physician, were augmented in the year 1822, from 300/. to 400/. a year. Can