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Second Report from the Select Committee of the Local Taxation of the City of Dublin

09/07/1823

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Second Report from the Select Committee of the Local Taxation of the City of Dublin

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a n^ wq ON THE LOCAL TAXATION OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN.. 159 ARE YOU ACQUAINTED WITH THE DUTIES REQUIRED OF THE APOTHECARY BY THE LAW AT PRESENT IN FORCE ?— I AM. IS IT THE DUTY OF THE APOTHECARY TO ATTEND THE PHYSICIAN DURING HIS VISITS ?— HE IS BOUND BY LAW TO DO SO. DOES HE IN POINT OF FACT DO SO ?— HE DOES NOT, HE SENDS HIS APPRENTICE TO PER- FORM SUCH OPERATIONS AS ARE ORDERED BY THE PHYSICIAN OR SURGEON. IS THE ATTENDANCE OF AN APPRENTICE IN PCIINT OF FACT, THE ATTENDANCE GIVEN BY THE APOTHECARY IN THE PRISONS IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN; DOES HE ATTEND PERSONALLY, OR BY APPRENTICE ?— HE SCARCELY EVER ATTENDS IN PERSON, ON THE CONTRARY, I UNDERSTOOD IT HAD BEEN MUCH TALKED OVER AND ACCEDED TO BY THE MEDICAL MEN, THAT HE NEED NOT DO SO. YOU HAVE STATED, THAT IT WAS THE DUTY OF THE LOCAL INSPECTOR, AS FAR AS IN HIM LAY, TO CARRY THE PROVISIONS OF THE LAW INTO EFFECT, AND THAT IT IS HIS DUTY TO REPORT TO YOU, AS INSPECTOR GENERAL; DID HE EVER MAKE TO YOU ANY REPORT ON THE SUBJECT OF THIS VIOLATION OF THE LAW?— NO, HE ADMITTED IT WHEN WE ASKED HIM; WE DISCOVERED IT BY OUR USUAL PRACTICE, AT AN INSPECTION OF GOING THROUGH ALL THE QUERIES WHICH ARE CONNECTED WITH GAOL DISCIPLINE, IN THE ACT OF PARLIAMENT; I WOULD ADD TO THAT, THAT I AM NOT ATTACHING IMMEDIATE BLAME TO THE INSPECTOR, WHO I BELIEVE CONSIDERED IT UNNECESSARY TO REPORT THAT AS AN ERROR, OR BREACH OF LAW, WHICH THE MEDICAL OFFICERS CONSIDERED NOT NECESSARY OR USEFUL TO COMPLY WITH; EXCLUSIVE OF WHICH, THE PRISON OFFICERS IN GENERAL, THROUGHOUT IRELAND, WERE NOT PREPARED AT ONCE FOR THE STRICTNESS WITH WHICH WE WERE DETERMINED TO ENFORCE ALL THE LEGAL ENACTMENTS. INDEPENDENTLY OF THE REPORTS, WHICH IT IS HIS DUTY TO MAKE TO YOU, WAS IT NOT HIS DUTY, AS LOCAL INSPECTOR, TO CARRY THE PROVISIONS OF THE LAW INTO FULL EFFECT?— I THINK SO, AND WE HAVE FREQUENTLY CALLED ON MR. GAMBLE, THE LOCAL INSPECTOR, TO DO SO, AND WE HAVE NO REASON TO APPREHEND THAT MR. GAMBLE SETS HIS FACE AT ALL AGAINST THE PERFORMANCE OF HIS DUTY; SO FAR AS MR. GAMBLE WAS MADE ACQUAINTED WITH HIS DUTY, WE FIND A READINESS TO CO- OPERATE WITH US. BUT YOU FOUND, IN THE TWO INSTANCES YOU HAVE STATED, AN ACTUAL VIOLATION OF THE LAW, WHICH WAS NOT REPORTED TO YOU BY THE LOCAL INSPECTOR, BUT WHICH WAS DISCOVERED BY YOURSELVES IN THE DISCHARGE OF YOUR DUTIES ?— CERTAINLY ; AND WE CONSIDER, MORE- OVER, THAT THERE IS A GREAT DIFFICULTY, ON ACCOUNT OF LOCAL FEELINGS, TO OBTAIN AN OFFICER WHO WILL COMPLAIN OF THE NEGLECT OF DUTY OF THOSE THAT ARE UNDER THEM, EXCEPT IN CASES OF GROSS NEGLECT. TO WHAT DO YOU ALLUDE, WHEN YOU STATE THAT LOCAL FEELINGS MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO GET OFFICERS WHO WILL COMPLAIN OF THE NEGLECT OF DUTY IN THOSE WHO ARE SUBJECT TO RULES AND REGULATIONS?— I CONSIDER THAT THE LOCAL INSPECTOR WOULD NATURALLY NOT FEEL PLEASANT, TO SAY THE LEAST, IN REPORTING THE NEGLECT OF THE APOTHECARY TO ATTEND THE PHYSICIAN AND SURGEON, AS THE LAW REQUIRES, IN PERSON. WHY ?— BECAUSE IT MIGHT CREATE UNPLEASANT FEELINGS AMONGST THEM. WHO IS THE APOTHECARY ?— MR. CRAVEN. IS THERE ANY CONTROL EXERCISED BY THE GRAND JURIES OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN OVER THE PRISONS; HAVE THEY ANY THING TO SAY TO THE MANAGEMENT OF THEM ; DO THEY PROVIDE THE FUNDS FOR THE MAINTENANCE?— THEY DO PROVIDE THE FUNDS; I DO NOT THINK THEY EXERCISE ANY POWER ( WHATEVER THEY MAY HAVE) IN CONTROLLING THE REGULATIONS OF THE PRISON. BY WHOM IS THE LOCAL INSPECTOR APPOINTED ?— BY THE GRAND JURY. ARE YOU AWARE WHETHER THE APOTHECARY, MR. CRAVEN, IS ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN ACCUSTOMED TO SERVE ON THESE GRAND JURIES ?— I AM NOT; I NEVER HEARD IT. WHO IS THE SURGEON OF THE PRISONS OF DUBLIN ?— A MR. REED HAS BEEN LATELY APPOINTED. CAN YOU STATE WHETHER THAT GENTLEMAN DISCHARGES HIS DUTIES IN PERSON IN THE PRISONS OF DUBLIN ?— HE DOES; BUT THE LATE SURGEON DID NOT, BY WHOSE RESIGNATION HE HAS BEEN APPOINTED. IN WHAT MANNER DID THE LATE SURGEON PERFORM HIS DUTY ?— BY DEPUTY. AT WHAT TIME DID THE RESIGNATION OF THE LATE SURGEON TAKE PLACE; WAS IT SINCE YOUR APPOINTMENT TO OFFICE ?— CERTAINLY. DID YOU RECEIVE ANY REPORT, THROUGH THE LOCAL INSPECTOR, OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THOSE DUTIES BY THE SURGEON OF THE PRISON BY DEPUTY, AND NOT IN PERSON?— I DID NOT, BUT I KNEW IT AT ONCE; THERE WAS NO OCCASION FOR A REPORT, AS IT WAS QUITE EVIDENT. IS THERE AN ATTENDANCE BOOK KEPT IN THE PRISONS UNDER THE ACT?— YES, THERE IS. 549- I i magistrates, Major James Palmer. ( 27 May.)
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