14S MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE djl". of compensation ?— To give a general view of the duty I am under the necessity of performing I will, for the sake of illustration, consider the five prisons as one, and ' place it at a general average distance : in such a case, I would say that I must visit that one prison twelve times at least in a week, that I have to prescribe for about 70 sick, and that I do not receive for that duty one guinea per day. You have stated that there are five prisons in Dublin ; in what street are New- gate, the sheriffs prison, and the city marshalsea ?— They are the only prisons that are at all convenient in their situation; they lie all together in Green- street. Is there much more difficulty in attending those three prisons than there would be in attending one prison that covered the same space ?— There undoubtedly is : in Newgate I have to visit the male department on one side, I must then have various doors opened to visit the female apartments on the other side, and frequently to £; o through different cells. fn point of fact, are they altogether in Green- street?— They are, yet all as distinct buildings. How far is the Smithfield penitentiary from those three prisons, how long does it take you to walk?— I never measured the time; but I should suppose, considerably more than half a mile. Do you pass through more that one street?— It is all one street, but a very long street, and it is in a part of the town where there is very little other professional business to transact. Prior to the establishment of the Richmond bridewell, was there not a bridewell in Dublin?— There was an old bridewell in James's- street. It was the duty of the physician to attend it?— Yes, but I had little or no duty to discharge there. Still it was the duty of the physician to attend four prisons?— It was. Are you not much better paid than the medical attendant on the London prisons* uho has to provide medicines?— The medical attendant on Newgate and Giltspur- street Compter, is a surgeon and apothecary; of course, a lower class in the pro- fession than than that of a physician, and he receives 500/. a year for discharging that duty, and he provides his medicines; but I can undertake to say that he has very little to do. He attends Newgate, Giltspur- street Compter and the Borough Compter?— Yes, and his own apprentices attend generally the latter: the two former lie together and are in his immediate neighbourhood. Have you visited any other prisons?— I have visited all those prisons, and the Whitecross- street prison, and the Milbank penitentiary. Will you state what are the medical expenses of the prison at Horsemonger- lane ? — I have not visited or inquired with respect to any but those I have named. Have you visited the Milbank penitentiary?— 1 have. Can you state the medical expenses there ?— From the official reports I perceive that the resident surgeon receives 4001, a year, though there are besides other medical attendants, whose remuneration is not stated. Can you state what the expenses for medicines are?— I cannot. The expenses for medicine at the Milbank penitentiary in one year were 98/. 1 as. only, whilst the average number of convicts amounted to 747, how do you account for the extraordinary disproportion between that expense for medicines and the expense in the Dublin prisons?— Very easily; that charge is for drugs only, not including the expense of preparation ; there is besides but little sickness comparatively, from the manner in which the prisoners are accommodated, and from the state of cleanliness and comfort they enjov, and from their beim* of a ditlerent and superior class to the Dublin prisoners." It is also to be calculated, that the Dublin apothecaries are under the necessity of employing two additional hands in consequence of being apothecaries to the prisons; because they have not only to make up the prescriptions, but frequently to bleed, or to perforin some other operations in each of five prisons at considerable distances from their habitations. How far are the most distant prisons from each other ?— The distance between bmithfcld penitentiary and Richmond bridewell is at least between two and three English miles; the whole town lies between them. ntt! Ltbfv! Vny ' easo. n , w. hy y° u should be better paid than the physicians who thpnth hospital in Dublin?_ I think so; one is a charitable institution, 0ther 13 a P c establishment, in which there i? a very disagreeable duty to perform.