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The Sixth Report Fees, Gratuities, Perquisites Ireland

25/01/1808

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No. 38, Do you think fuch a circumflance could have occurrcd without your being able to recoiled it ?— I think not; nor could I have had any motive to fend for him, unlefs I had fome order to give him ; I might have had fuch a thing to communicate, but I cannot be pofitive. Is it poffible that Mr. Fitzimons could have requested you to fend Clements out to Sandvmount, and yet be unable to fpeak pofitively to any one of the circumftances attending fuch a tranfa& ion ?— I cannot be pofitive ; he might have defired me to do fo ; I may have fent a melfage to Clements defiring him to call on me at Maclean's ; and I may have told him that Mr. Fitzimons wifhed to fee him at Sandymount; but 56 ( Ireland.)— SIXTH. REPORT otf ^ COMMISSIONERS [ Appx. The Examination of NICHOLAS FANNING, Esq. Inspector of Excife; taken on Oath, the 13 th and 16th days of June 1807. N. Fanning, Efq. How did you rcceive the order to attend this Board ?— By letter from Mr. Worth- ^ ington, Secretary to the Commiffioners of Excise. Do you know whether the inferior Officers received their orders to attend this Board in the fame way ?— I believe they all did, except in the firft inftance- when, as well as 1 recoiled, the Board of Excife applied to Mr. Knipe and Mr. Fitzimons, to feled a proper Gauger to fend to the Commiffioners of Enquiry ; I believe Mr. Fitzi- mons fent Hill Clements as a fit perfon ; I concurred in the recommendation, as 1 thought him a fmart man, and capable of giving every information 5 but I am not fure whether I figned the order. Have you had any converfation with Clements, relative to the evidence that he was to give, or relative to the evidence that he had given, to this Board;— I never re- plied to have had any particular converfation with him. Did you fee him in the evening of the firft day on which he was examined at this Board ?— I am fure I did not. Did he come to you on that evening, at the houfe of Mr. Maclean, a Diftiller ?— I am fure he did not. Did you defire Clements to go out to Mr. Fitzimons at Sandymount, either that evening or at any other time ?— I never did. When did you return to Dublin ?— On Monday laft. Did you ever hear that Hill Clements had faid any thing with refped to his exa- mination at this Board ? — I heard from Mr. Knipe, Examiner of Gaugers books, • that Hill Clements had been here again, and had given evidence different from that which he had formerly given. What converfation paffed with refped to Clements ?— Nothing particular, only fome general converfation with refped to a phrafe faid by Mr. Knipe to have been jocularly ufed by Mr Fitzimons about Clements. Can you ftate what that phrafe was ?— I have no recolledion of any of the pai* ticulars. Do you know whether Mr. Fitzimons retains a good opinion of Clements ?— I fhould fuppofe not, as he is aware of the mifcondud of Clements. Since Fitzimons has changed his opinion of Clements, have you had any converfa- tion with him about Clements ? — Nothing particular that I can recollect; but I know that I told Mr. Fitzimons, fince Clements was examined at this Board, that I had a very bad opinion of him, in confequence of fome alterations which he made in his books. Had you any converfation with Clements fince he was removed from the charge of Diftilleries ?— Nothing particular, only that he told me, this morning, that he had been very badly treated. Can you fay pofitively, that you did not defire Clements to come to you at the houfe of Mr. Maclean, the Diftiller ?— I cannot recoiled ; I might have met him at dinner there, but I have not the fmallcft recollection of it. •
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